Disaster and the False Teachers

There’s nothing that whets the appetite of an internet prophet/watchman more than natural disaster. The catastrophic events in Japan are providing the self-appointed watchmen with more fodder to pass on to their listeners as “proof” that God’s hand of judgment is upon the land because of unrepentance for sin. What began as a problem for Japan will become judgment for us, they say, as the “radiation clouds” pass over the U.S. and fall as rain on our crops, contaminating our food supply. We will import cars and car parts from Japan that are “radiated.” The list goes on of these completely unscientific, or at least very worst-case scenarios.

You can hear the obvious excitement in their voices when they discuss it. Each new disaster will be the “Big One”, that will prove beyond doubt they are truly modern-day prophets of God, and for the good of our selves and our families, we should listen to and support their ministries, so they’ll keep us informed about how to escape the effects of the “judgment.” Reliance on God’s word alone is not something they actively encourage.

A popular U.S.-based prophetic web site Watchman’s Cry had this advice for Americans in the days after the Japan quake, as he spoke about the possibility of radiation clouds passing over our country:

Get duct tape and polyplastic at least 6 mil. thick, and line your windows with the duct tape and plastic so that drafts cannot get in. ………………Folks, there’s some “prophetic teeth” to this program. This is not just some crazy person ranting. I spend a lot of time in prayer with God.”*

Whether the Japan quake is God’s judgment or not only the Lord knows for certain, but we can be assured that either way, no amount of duct tape and plastic is going to be anyone’s salvation, no matter how much time our favorite watchman spends in prayer. The internet prophets have now branched out into the field of “survivalist counsellors.” They teach us that our skills in physical survival in the material world is what God is going to really grade us on. Sure, we should all know first aid, and have food and provisions and water stored away for disasters, that is just common sense, but should we replace the Bibles on our night tables with survival manuals? Jesus says in Matt. 10:28-29 :

“Do not fear those who kill the body and cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? And not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father.” …ESV

Jesus was telling us about the big picture. Where we spend eternity is much more important than whether we can find a bunker or a cave in the mountains to hide out in. If God is truly sending his judgment upon us in the form of weather related events, which is actually impossible to determine without divine revelation, then what small minds these people have to tell us we can outwit the judgment by using the clever methods they recommend. Because we have moved our family to an “earthquake safe” zone, or we have sold our shoreline property and relocated to the plains or mountains, or we have taken our potassium iodine pills, or we have sealed our house with duct tape and plastic, should we haughtily think we have outwitted or outraced true judgment from God and escaped by our own wiles and devices?

Paul had a lot to say about sin and judgment in the book of Romans. When we are tempted to think we have escaped judgment because we are more righteous or more clever than those poor souls who died in the disaster, heed the words of Chapter 2 verses 1-3 where he states:

You may think you can condemn such people, but you are just as bad, and you have no excuse! When you say they are wicked and should be punished, you are condemning yourself,  for you who judge others do these very same things. And we know that God, in His justice, will punish anyone who does such things. Since you judge others for doing these things, why do you think you can avoid God’s judgment when you do the same things? Don’t you see how wonderfully kind, tolerant and patient God is with you? Does this mean nothing to you? Can’t you see that His kindness is intended to turn you away from your sin?……..Romans 2: 1-3 (NLV)

Do not think that because the disaster fell on our neighbor, and passed by us, that it is an endorsement from the heavens that our sins are less egregious in God’s eyes, and that we survived by listening to the clever watchman and his wisdom. The Bible tells us of a time coming when all deeds will be judged, and everything will be brought out in the light of day. No one can escape that day of judgment. The wicked shall be punished, but in God’s due time, not when we make a list of who we think should be judged, and pronounce that the judgment is happening now, because we declare it to be so.  God must judge; as a God of justice, it is an essential characteristic. However, there is a kind of “holy reluctance” on the part of the Father and the Son to judge. Acts 17:31 tells us about how God has placed final judgment in Jesus’ hands, for a day that is fixed in the future, to give every person a chance to turn from evil and accept the Word of the Son of man:

 “because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.”

It is stated again in John 5:22-23:

The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Verse 24 : Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my Word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.” Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming, and is here now, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.” Verses 26 and 27 : For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son to also have life in himself. And he has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of man.”  

Acts 10:42 affirms again that Jesus will be the judge:

“And he commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one appointed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.”

Romans 2:16

“On that day when, according to my  gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Jesus Christ.

And in Romans 14:9-10

 “For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and the living. Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.”

 And yet another direct admonishment against our presuming a physical event to be punishment from God:

It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart.” 1 Cor. 4:5

The God of love, grace, mercy and wisdom has relegated His final judgment to Jesus, after His second coming, and that judgment will be according to His Word, no matter how much the prophets of the internet insist every hurricane, earthquake, and oil spill is judgment for sin.  

 The idea that all disaster is sent directly from the hand of God because of sin was very much in play during Hurricane Katrina in 2005. The devastation was promptly determined by the all-knowing watchmen and prophets to be God’s judgment against the people of that area. Among the reasons given was rampant homosexuality in New Orleans. If you recall, there was a large homosexual convention and celebration scheduled to begin August 31 in the French Quarter of New Orleans, and the “watchmen” were telling us the hurricane was a move of God in judgment against the homosexuals because of their planned celebration. But the French Quarter was one of the few areas that was spared from any damage. All the bars in that area remained open for business. And most of the people who were coming to celebrate the event had not yet arrived in the city when the hurricane hit. Did God not foresee these things? Did God not know that most of the suffering would be among the poor, the frail and infirm, and those with children? The middle and upper class citizens had the means to evacuate. The people that were most affected by the disaster were the poorest, most marginalized people in the region who live in the 9th ward. Clearly the internet prophets need to seriously rethink their theology of judgment.

Likewise in the tragedy in Haiti last year the “computer prophets” were rushing to their microphones to declare the disaster to be punishment for the island nation’s traditional practice of voodoo. Voodoo was actually brought to the island from Africa hundreds of years ago, but that technicality doesn’t stop the prophets from spinning their yarns. 

A pattern they always follow is to feed off the emotions of the early newsfeeds coming out of an event, and extrapolating the worst possible scenarios from the early reports. We saw this last year, with the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf. When things were at the darkest point, around mid June 2010, before the successful capping of the well, they were talking about God unleashing all kinds of environmental plagues on the hapless citizens of the Gulf Coast. One self-styled internet “watchman” Nathan Leal emotionally issued the following statements at the height of the Gulf Oil spill crisis last year:

Over the past several weeks, America has been visited by an event that will be one of the most destructive ecological catastrophes in modern history. It is going to shatter records! Over the last few weeks as I have researched and prepared for the message, I have found myself trembling. As I sought God in prayer, I asked Him for insight about this oil catastrophe. I have cried out to Him and asked Him to have mercy on the participants of this disaster.

The chain of events that led to this catastrophe go much further (than a failure in technology)…..they go into a different realm; A spiritual realm where a Holy God exists and is now unhappy with the works of men.

What we are now witnessing (in the Gulf) is the judgment of God upon America and upon the earth. When I say, “The Judgment of God” I am not referring to an afternoon thunderstorm that is over in a few hours. This judgment will include the very foundations of the earth quaking and trembling. It is going to play out through a sequence of events. These events are going to strike a death blow to the economy and food supply of America. We are going to witness famine, bread lines and soup kitchens! We are also going to witness a breakdown in society (because of the Gulf spill)! Think Katrina times 100!!**

God told him He is now unhappy with the works of men.  He speaks as if God has just recently started to get upset with the actions of men, and He is choosing parts of the world to strike out against, while sparing other regions (presumably because they are less displeasing to Him?) He claimed God told him there would be famine in the land, riots, and the collapse of the economy because of the Gulf oil spill. Not only was he presumptuous about it being judgment from God, but most of the events he spoke about never even took place!

If we want to go beyond this belittling view of the nature of God, we need to understand a little about our fallen nature. Paul, the apostle, reminds us of this fallen nature in Romans :8:20-22 (NIV):      

 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope
        21 that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.
        22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.

The Bible tells us that since the original sin in the Garden of Eden, this earth has been in “bondage to decay.” All of creation has been “groaning as in the pains of childbirth.” This decay was not part of the original plan for the human race, but became our destiny as a result of the fall. The fall of Adam is the fall of the human race. Rather than being a new phenomenon, disasters have always been with us. It is clear from the Bible that our nature is fallen, and we live in a fallen world. The birthpains the world goes through were ordained after the fall of man.  All of these events we are witnessing and will be witnessing as we go through the endtimes are detailed in the Scriptures, from Genesis to Daniel in the O.T., and the gospels and the letters of Paul, and the book of Revelation in the N.T. Scripture is now closed. We need only to follow the path laid out for us in God’s word. We are not receiving any new divine revelation from the watchmen, in spite of how they insist we need their interpretations of God’s will and intent for us in order to survive. 

The gospel implores us to go far beyond the “hunker down and survive” mentality that these prophets/survivalists are dishing out. The cornerstone of Christianity is the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ, which paid in full the sin penalty we have incurred. What this means to the Christian is that we no longer have to fear death. Why should we plod through life with a survival mentality? We have to decide what is more important to us: to play our role in fulfilling the Great Commission God gave us, with all the glorious promises that come with it, or listen to the gloomy messages that tell us the work of Christ on the cross is incomplete and insufficient, and that we have many works to perform before we are justified before God. We can choose to cower in fear from the next storm to hit, or boldly go forth and proclaim that the Son has set us free and we can claim that freedom now, no matter which way the wind blows. Our Savior is coming soon. The survival of our physical bodies is not the focus for those who understand that we will soon be receiving our new eternal bodies. The word we should be spreading is glorious news. Any non-Christian listening to the watchmen broadcasts would think our faith is based on fear, and our God is not to be trusted.

Far from the God of infinite justice that we know Him to be, we let these false prophets portray the Creator as petty and small, leaving guilty and innocent in a wake of death and destruction. Do the internet fear-mongers out there think that their hateful and prejudiced and biased accusations about God sending horrific disasters indiscriminately across the earth, will make it more likely people will turn to God and accept Jesus? On the contrary, many will see what hypocrites they are, and turn from the Lord. Their ministries are not saving ministries. They end up with a deficit account in the business of winning souls for Christ.

Certainly God has sent disaster as punishment for sin in the past. In Amos 4:6-13, the story is told of how God sent successive disasters and plagues to Israel to get them to repent of their sins. The Great Flood, and the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, are classic examples where the people received judgment for their sin. There are examples in the New Testament as well, of sin resulting in punishment being issued. In Acts 5: 1-11, we see the story of Ananias and Saphira who met death for lying about the amount of money they gave to the communal offering. We know these were judgments because we hold Scripture to be the inerrant word of the Lord. In no way is it our preogative to stray from Scripture and arbitrarily decide for ourselves which events are from the direct hand of God. Only direct revelation from God Himself can conclusively link a set of sins to a disaster. Without divine revelation from the Lord to tell us, we are just imposing our own will upon God. We are telling God who we think should be punished, and how that punishment should be executed. Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar were friends of Job who were convinced that disaster had befallen Job because of unconfessed sin. The Lord severely rebuked the three of them for speaking wrongly and presumptuously claiming it to be punishment for sin.  (Job 42:7-9) We would do well to learn from their mistake.

In John 9:1-3, the disciples walking with Jesus passed by a man who was blind from birth. The disciples assumed that his blindness was a punishment for sin, and asked Jesus: “Who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” Jesus responded “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.”  Jesus was teaching that God, in His mysterious and wise providence, sometimes allows His children to go through suffering and hardship so that they can experience God’s mercy and power in delivering them. Often after tragedy strikes and results in widespread death and destruction, many people turn to God for answers, whereas in times of peace, God tends to be given only a passing notice by many who are completely engrossed with the affairs of the world.

In Luke 13, Jesus was asked if the fate of the Galileans, who were killed by Pilate and had their blood mixed with the sacrificial offerings. was a result of their sin. Jesus responded:

“Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans, because they suffered in this way? No, I tell you, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish. Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them: do you think that they were worse offenders than all the others who lived in Jerusalem? No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.” 

Jesus reminds the crowd, who confidently believed they were “not judged”, and still under “God’s covering of protection”, that the victims were truly victims, and no more guilty than anyone else. He thus dismantles their own false sense of security. Jesus goes on to tell a parable of a fig tree that has not borne fruit for three years. Instead of being cut down, it is given another year to bear fruit. Thus he challenged directly their assumption that there is automatically an instant and immediate correlation between sin and punishment. Jesus had to shut down the belief that their own health and long life meant God’s approval, and that a tragic untimely death meant God’s disapproval. The point is that it is dangerous thinking to equate a disastrous event with a city or region being in a state of sin. What about all the cities and countries that have not been hit by disaster? Are they sinning less, or is their sin of a lesser nature in God’s eyes? The Bible tells us all sin is equal in God’s eyes. God does not grade on the curve. The sin of one nation or city is not more acceptable to God than the sin of Japan, or New Zealand, or New Orleans, or any other place the watchman insists is under God’s judgment.

Judgmental “gloom and doomers” think that God wants to kill off certain people in certain areas because their sin is more obvious to you, and to them, than their very own sins. They come across with this “I told you those people were going to get it” attitude in judging the deaths in disasters to be punishment for sin. They try to gloss over the fact that many disaster deaths involve the elderly, children, and the disadvantaged in society. Also we must consider that disaster kills believers and non-believers alike in one swoop. The tidal waves we see these days do not part to allow safe passage for the Christians in its wake, like the Red Sea parted in the time of Moses. It is hard to reconcile why the Christian who is living under grace for believing in the work of the Son on the cross at Calvary would suddenly be killed as punishment for sin. God’s ways are not our ways, and we must accept that there are mysteries we cannot fully explain with our logical minds. What is clear from Scripture, is that it is a serious mistake to claim that every disaster is sent by God to strike out against sinners.  Matt. 5:45 tells us:

“for He makes His sun rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.” 

God does not steer weather-related events in the path of those we judge as having “greater sin” than ourselves and others. Natural upheavals in the earth’s crust, and storms have always been taking place on this earth. There are now more people in the path of these events, so death tolls are higher.

Much of the death toll in natural disasters is human related. Poor planning, and cutbacks in expenditure on infrastructure were very evident in the aftermath of Katrina. Warnings went unheeded for years that the levees in New Orleans would not hold up to a big storm. Large concentrations of population live in areas vulnerable to weather and geological events. Lack of appropriate levels of government spending on disaster preparedness contributes to the death toll in such events as these. The huge oil spill in the Gulf last year was the result of technicological failures and misapplication of oil well technology, but don’t tell any of this to the watchman. He will insist that God is directly at the controls of every earthquake, tsunami, and oil spill. They do not accept that any disaster could be the direct result of human failure, or the geological and spiritual nature of the earth itself. While it is certainly true that God remains in total control at all times, we must accept the consequences of our own actions and inactions. If we populate cities along major earthquake fault lines, eventually plate tectonics will come into play, and a seismic event that could have killed very few will result in widespread disaster.

The Biblical role of the Watchman was that he was a prophet who was sent out to an area or region to bring a warning from God that unless the people there repented and turned away from their evil ways, there would be a great destruction sent their way. Jonah was a watchman ordered by God to go to Nineveh and warn the people that they had 40 days to turn away from their evil, or the city would be destroyed. The Ninevites did repent, and the city was spared from disaster. True watchmen of God were always sent out to warn about an event before it happened, because God’s intent was for the people to repent and thus be saved. Their message was from God Himself; it was never a personal message from the workings of their own minds.

If the watchmen are right when they tell us they know with divine certainty that disasters such as the ones in New Zealand and Japan, and before those, in Haiti, New Orleans, and numerous other areas, were indeed directed by the hand of God as punishment for the sins of the people in these areas, then as true watchmen of the Lord they should have been issuing specific warnings to the residents of these areas well in advance of each event so that lives could have been spared. Failure to issue the warnings to the residents, the Bible tells us in Ezekiel 3:16-19, would mean the blood of all the victims is on their hands.

“But wait a minute”, you say,” how could they have known in advance? They are just humans!” They are humans claiming to have exclusive access to the throne room of God, when clearly this is not the case. They set themselves up as spokesmen for God, and tell you that you need them in order to truly hear what God is saying. On top they collect your money for doing it. This apostasy will greatly increase as we go further into the endtimes, and to have any chance of enduring the race to the end, as Paul said, we will have to disconnect from false teachers and put our eyes solely on the Lord.

Almost lost in all the murk and gloom of their judgmental pronouncements is the fact that true, biblical watchman were also assigned to proclaim the good news about salvation.  In Isaiah we learn about the joyous message watchmen have been assigned to deliver:

“How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him who brings good news, who proclaims peace, who brings glad tidings of good things, who proclaims salvation, who says to Zion, ‘Your God reigns!’ Your watchmen shall lift up their voices, with their voices they shall sing together; for they shall see eye to eye when the Lord brings back Zion.

“Break forth into joy, sing together, you waste places of Jerusalem! For the Lord has comforted His people, He has redeemed Jerusalem. The Lord has made bare His holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God” (Isaiah 52:7-10).

The Biblical watchman would bring “good news, glad tidings of good things, singing, breaking forth into joy!” Does this sound like the merchants of doom that pass as watchmen today? True prophets and watchmen, if there are any among us today, would be able to see the big picture of the Kingdom of God and its application to us in the world today. They are godly people who are given unique vision. Rather than break our spirit, they would lift us up in joy with the thought of how soon will be the coming of His Kingdom, and how salvation will be offered not just to Israel, but also to all nations.

And when their supposedly Holy Spirit-led pronouncements about this new disaster to hit Japan, like the ones concerning the Gulf, and the many ones before that, do not prove to be founded on truth, will we get a full apology and retraction from them? Will they agree to stop speaking on behalf of the Lord? Don’t count on it. They are convinced we all have poor memories, and also that we desperately need to hear their pronouncements on each new event as it unfolds. Stay tuned for the next disaster. My guess is they won’t be telling us to rest in the assurances of an all-loving God and His promises to us.

Genesis 6:5-6 tells us : “The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the Lord was sorry that he had made man on the earth.” The next time someone asks us how as Christians we can reconcile the fact that God allows terrible disaster to strike parts of the world, perhaps we should ask them to rephrase the question. Shouldn’t the question really be how a righteous and totally sovereign God, knowing the wickedness and evil in the hearts of men, has the mercy and forbearance to refrain from delivering the full force of His wrath upon the entire world all at once? Should we not really be asking: “Why, oh why, Lord, does your judgment tarry?” Instead, we judge God based upon our agenda of how well He carries out our plans for the world.

Don’t give in to fear and trepidation. Christians will die in future catastrophes that will come upon this earth, we are not exempted. But we are called to serve, and to be ambassadors of Christ while here, until we become citizens in another realm. We need to hold fast to the word of God. Disregard all the jabber and distraction that arises after each new event. What the victims need is prayer and a helping hand, not the condemnation of their fellow men.

all blessings in Christ…………………………….JD Ellis

All Bible quotes from ESV unless otherwise noted.

footnotes………..

http://watchmanscry.com/audio/broadcast_161.mp3

** http://watchmanscry.com/article_Oil_Spill_in_the_Gulf%20.html

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13 Responses to Disaster and the False Teachers

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  2. samuel harrington says:

    your another nut that blames GOD for this issue, because you dont know the answer you made one up, what a sinfull act

    • Hi Samuel. You know Sam, there is an old-fashioned custom that is still practiced today on the internet to actually read articles before commenting on them!!

  3. sherry l. lundquist says:

    Amen brother on telling the TRUTH…and for a confirmation that i needed…i have been thinking much the same recently…we as the people of God need to focus on delivering the peace and simplicity to a dying world…through the WORD…this is first and foremost…the wrath will come…definately but i think we need to remember what a stumbling block we can be to the unbelieving and the young believer with our doomsday posts…propoganda…teachings and the like…ty for expounding in a much needed area….God bless you!!

  4. Wes Mason says:

    Well said and well taught from the word. We live in a fallen world and disasters are a part of package. We should be seeking to help those in need with the good news of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the practical administration of his love by helping them with food, water, clothing, shelter and medical treatment.

  5. Watcher Who Waits says:

    I appreciate your comments, but I am wondering if these events are not warning signs and birthpangs of things to come – the world is in upheaval, especially in the Middle East as never before, combined with natural disasters such as earthquakes which are predicted in the Bible as well. Many are filled with fear and are perhaps more open tot he Gospel so this is an opportunity. But the Church is so compromised, deluded and filled with leaven it has lost its salt and light. That does not mean that those who are aware should be discouraged from sharing the Gospel – God is still saving people.
    But the TRUE watchmen are trying to warn the CHURCH to wake up! Those other dominionist should be be called watchmen because they are NOT and those self-proclaimed “prophets” are false. But the spirit of Jeremiah and the other prophets lives on and those with that calling are trying to sound the warning and we DO need these folks.
    You are absolutely correct that our emphasis should not be on self-preservation, but on sharing the Gospel. But often what is passing for Gospel today is compromised and incomplete and saves no one. In fact, there are many who profess Christ but are not really His.

    I would not be so quick to downplay the radiation effects as “unscientific” just becasue they are not being reported by the main media. If one does their research and homework, there are scientitists who concur that the Japan nuclear incident poses a very real threat to other parts of the world. We can’t bury our heads in the sand. Certainly you don’t see the harm of one taking care of their temple with supplements to ward off the effects. That does not make one an alarmist with a survivalist mentality.

    I am waiting for my Savior to take me home in the Rapture that can occur at any moment – until that time I am to occupy and be about His business to the best of my ability and as He leads. I am not to become alarmed by the media reports, but keep my eyes on Him. The Bible tells us these things must come and there definitely IS an increase in the number of earthquakes and wars all over the place.

    • Reply to Watcher Who Waits:
      I agree that these earthquakes, tsunamis, and natural disasters of all kinds seem to be increasing in intensity and frequency, and might be what is spoken of in Revelation, but also could be just natural phenomena. We don’t have accurate data if we go back farther than 70 or 80 years or so. There are many who think we may be entering the endtimes. But even so, would we require a self-appointed internet “prophet” to tell us this? Can we not get all the information needed from the Bible itself, and rest assured that it is accurate information? Is it not more likely we will get false information from a human than from the Bible?

      And what, you might ask, is wrong if these people give out these warnings? First of all, they are not qualified to speak on behalf of God, because God is not giving them a word to be passed on to us. How do I know this? Because God is without error, and you just need to follow these ministries for a very short time to see the error. They simply watch the headlines, and every new disaster, they come out with a message for us that God has supposedly given to them. They never know about anything in advance of the event, which seems odd to me if they are true prophets. Wasn’t the Biblical profile of the watchman, at least to a certain degree, to warn people in advance of an event?

      When you make a podcast, or have a radio show, like Trunews, WatchmansCry, Appearance Ministries, New Wine Ministry, etc., and you state before thousands of Christian listeners that you went into your prayer closet and God spoke to you, and told you to pass messages on to your listeners, you have to be one hundred percent accurate in what you pass on. If they are right sometimes, and wrong sometimes, then that alone would be reason enough to stop listening to them, don’t you think? We wouldn’t know if any particular prophecy was true or false. It seems to me God doesn’t work this way. Scripture tells us God is a God of peace, not confusion.

      Jeremiah, and Isaiah, and all the true prophets, were completely accurate. The book of Jeremiah speaks a great deal about how wicked it is to falsely speak in the name of the Lord. The idea that there is some room for error or “wiggle room” when you are quoting God is dangerous for obvious reasons. There are so many verses all through the Bible about the seriousness of this that they are too numerous to list here. The third commandment itself states clearly how seriously God protects His word. Think about how offended we as humans get when someone spreads lies about us or something we said. I truly believe God reserves His most severe judgment for those who spread lies in His name.

      When I point this out, people often come back with the quote that says “we only know in part, and prophesy in part.” (1Cor. 13:9) This verse does not mean we have license to misquote God. There are only two possibilities: God spoke to them, or He didn’t. If they didn’t hear Him clearly, they shouldn’t pass on the information. Its one thing to tell your spouse or your neighbor, that you think God told you something, but it enters into a different category when you make pronouncements in front of the whole body of the church.

      How do I know these people are spreading falsehood? For me, just one falsehood is enough to tell me the speaker is not hearing from God, but is passing on his own thoughts. and representing them as God’s message. I don’t think its like baseball, with its “three strikes and you’re out” rule.

      One of these ministries said God told him to tell his listeners that Washington DC would be wiped off the map in October 2009. Another said that God told him to warn that a nuclear explosion would devastate the U.S. completely in late 2010. This is the same guy who was running around on all the Christian talk shows in 1999, saying God told him everyone should stock up on emergency supplies, because the entire infrastructure of the world would crumble when the calendar changed over to the year 2000.

      Another of the “watchmen” said last year that while in his prayer closet God told him that the Gulf Oil Spill would bring the U.S. economy to its knees, cause rioting in the streets throughout the country, and millions would be standing in bread lines. He said that God further told him that a giant methane gas “bubble” was forming under the sea, that was liable at any moment to take out a huge portion of the Gulf Coast. Some of these things may or may not one day happen, but would God be mistaken, and say the Gulf Oil Spill would be the trigger for this to happen? The fourth one of the “prophets” I mentioned above has such a long history of being wrong, that I wouldn’t know where to begin to relate how much he has misquoted God.

      We will never get an accurate count of how many families were torn apart by these false prophecies. How many people quit their jobs, sold their houses, and uprooted their families to flee because of these false prophecies? If it was even one, that is too high a price to pay. If these same people had merely referred to their Bibles and rested firmly in the hands of the Father and His promises to us, so much sorrow and grief could have been avoided.

      The same people who easily spot the error in things like dominionist, and emerging church teachings, and speak out against it, seem to be overly-eager to give a free pass to the “watchmen ” of the internet. I believe the reason is that we as humans have a built-in, natural fascination with knowing what the future holds. There are numerous warnings in Scripture that we are not to vainly strive to know what tomorrow holds. Today holds enough for anyone.

      Why do I make such a big issue about these false prophets? Because the Bible tells us one of the biggest dangers and stumbling blocks for the Christian in the endtimes is the rise of great apostasy and increasing numbers of false prophets, who will lead astray “if possible, even the elect.” If we are unable to have the discernment skills to see this falsehood for what it is now, when it is so obvious, then we will be at great peril later on in the endtimes when the apostasy gets much more deceptive.

      As you rightly stated,
      ” the Church is so compromised, deluded and filled with leaven…………….That does not mean that those who are aware should be discouraged from sharing the Gospel – God is still saving people.
      This is exactly right. But just listen to any of them and tell me how much of the actual Gospel is being spread? Often, you can listen to one of their hour long broadcasts and hear only one or two verses being quoted, when the entire show should be about the Gospel!

      In your comment “That does not make one an alarmist with a survivalist mentality”.
      please note that the minister in question in the article you commented on, now devotes much of his time to a new radio show called “Survive 2 Thrive”, and is a full-blown survivalist.

      I am in total agreement with the last paragraph where you speak of the importance of going about the business we are commissioned to do, as we await our Savior. If we have a choice to make between spending an hour a day in Bible study, reading what God Himself has to say, or spending the same hour listening to a man tell me how to survive the endtimes, I know what my choice would be.

      …..blessings in Christ,
      JD Ellis

  6. Watcher Who Waits says:

    I am not familiar with the ministries you listed, but I know their kind and you are right, they are false, no doubt about it and we are not to have a surviivalist mentality. I was just referring to helpful advice among firiends such as sharing what supplements might be helpful in combating radiation. And the threat of radiation is real and we are to care for our temples. This knowledge by itself is not alarmist or dominionist. Not talking about duct taping your house or anything like that. Just simple things like 4 drops of liquid kelp in a glass of water. In no way do I agree with or support any socalled ministry that focuses of self-preservation.

    I do believe that the SPIRIT of Jeremiah and the prophets is alive in the Church today, NOT the office of prophets or apostles. Those with the gifting of alerting and warning the Church alert about apostasy and leaven and warn of false teachers and wolves. Like Jeremiah and the prophets they are largely ignored and even persecuted for telling the truth. I am NOT putting ANY stock in anyone who calls themself a prophet today. They are FALSE prophets.

    I sure thought I made this clear, but if I didn’t thanks for allowing me to clear that up.

    • Thanks for the reply. I didn’t mean you specifically support the false prophets, but many in the church today do, and this delusion is what I write about in my blog. When I go on Christian forums to say these things, it is quite incredible how much opposition I come up against.

      You are quite right, that the office of apostle and prophet is closed today. These offices were specifically for the laying down of the foundation of the church. Scripture is now closed, and after the last apostle died, there are no more. Once a foundation is laid down, that’s it. There is no structure that has two foundations.

      I want to write specifically about this in future, as there is so much misunderstanding about it. People get very strident and insist that there are true Biblical prophets today. I think you state it very well by saying there are a few among us who posess the “spirit” of prophecy.

      I have put links in the right margin of the blog to three websites I think are doing the best work today to expose false prophecy and warn us of the Great Apostasy coming soon.
      ………..JD Ellis

  7. rory says:

    We left Unleavened Bread. Since coming out of that along with 3 other elders, the veil over my mind has been rent and the realization that there is a “working of error” involved and a “strong delusion” is astonishing.
    Folks put these people on pedestals as oracles of God and the date-setting, dream driven, disaster mongering keeps followers ears tickled.
    It is nothing less than idolatry.
    Here is our article on our experience and there is a small industry of these ministries following disasters.
    They FAILED on every one of their disaster prophecies and the DISASTERS THAT HAPPENED, THEY FAILED TO FOR-SEE!
    http://preparinghisway.blogspot.com/2011/10/working-of-error.html

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  9. Mickey says:

    You are causing divisions among the brethren and you will answer for it.

    • Yes. That’s what they call it these days in the apostate church. Pointing out false doctrine and false prophecy is called “causing divisions.” Read your Bible. Especially the part where we are commanded to point out and call out those who would lead our brethren astray.

      I can judge by the degree to which I am subject to attacks like yours, how I must be on the right track. The Lord taught that people will attack you for telling the truth. Thanks for this affirmation. May God bless you.

      JD Ellis

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