Rick Wiles and the devastation of America in 2010: a muddied cup of prophecy

Rick Wiles and Trunews want to close the books on 2010 prophecy

Background to the story: …..January 8. 2010 – Rick Wiles issues a message through his Trunews.com ministry that he clearly labels as a message he received from the Holy Spirit after a period of prayer and fasting. The mp3 broadcast link is:http://www.trunews.com/Audio/1_08_10_friday_trunews2.mp3

Some of the points made on the Jan. 8 2010 broadcast were as follows: (all quotes taken from the transcript, please check mp3 link for actual broadcast), followed by my comments :

Last 3 months of 2010 will be brutal for America. The storm that will hit in the last 3 months of the year will not destroy America but it will stagger and stun the nation. There will be a great disruption in the nations commerce, communications, transportations and supply lines that will impact America for years. Tell my people to use the first 6 months of 2010 to prepare for the last 3 months. A year of bloodshed , violence, terror and fear

. …………..my comment: I am unaware of any such event having occurred in the U.S in 2010. Also, what was especially brutal about the last 3 months of the year, that wasn’t in play during the first 9 months?

Rick will broadcast from a remote location.
He has peace about where God is sending him. Has too many enemies.
By end of 2010 Rick must leave USA to do the work
Rick Wiles will leave – will go somewhere else before end of 2010. America’s Hope tent meetings will take place first – he expects that will be his last ministry inside the borders of the USA. …………..

my comments: None of the above occurred. Rick Wiles stayed at his home in Florida. The explanation he gives now (refer to new Jan. 8 2011 broadcast, referenced below) is that he stayed because God told him he would finalize the America’s Hope tent project first, before leaving the country. …….Hmmmm, I’m pretty sure God knew that the tent project would not be completed in 2010. Also, I think it would be wise for him to  learn the difference between “enemies” and people who look at his words closely because they are presented to be from God.

This is life and death. Your life will depend upon your going to the Lord in prayer and fasting during the first 3 months of this new year (2010)

………..my comment: I don’t know about anyone else, but there’s something wierd about an internet minister telling me how I need to do this in the first 3 months of the year, or I will be dead.

In his May 24, 2010, broadcast, link : http://www.trunews.com/Audio/5_24_10_monday_trunews2.mp3 Mr. Wiles took a big step forward in clarifying the nature of this big event that was coming in 2010 that would stagger and change the face of the country, and cut communication and transportation lines, etc. (as stated in the Jan. 8 broadcast). He named it as specifically being a nuclear explosion. He made it clear to his listeners that if what the Holy Spirit told him in January 2010 proved to be wrong he would do the right thing and publicly announce that he will never again say the Lord spoke to him.  The following is taken word-for-word from the last 3 minutes of this May 24 broadcast:

“My friends, we’re on the verge of a nuclear explosion in this country – the Lord told me at the beginning of this year, January 8, 2010. I came out of a fast and walked into this studio and told you what the Holy Spirit told me, and I’m standing by it. If I did not hear from God during that week of fasting, then I’ll never hear God. And I hope I’m wrong, I hope I hope I hope I’m wrong. With all my heart I hope I’m wrong. I hope I’m totally humiliated and never prophesy again, because I don’t want what I saw to come true. But what I heard the Holy Spirit tell me during that week of fasting at the beginning of this year, was that we had three months to seek Him in prayer and fasting, to seek His face and He would give us a plan. We would have 6 months to prepare and the last 3 months of 2010 – He said we will need His mercy to get through the last 3 months. I’m going to stand by it. Again, if I didn’t hear God, then I can’t hear God. If that wasn’t God speaking to me then I will never again as long as I live say that the Lord spoke to me. And I’m telling you tonight that everything is lining up towards a World War this year. One of the things the Holy Spirit told me in January was that many people will die in 2010, including many Christians. And He said ‘do not mourn or grieve the death of so many Christians. It is my mercy, I am taking them out of this world as tribulation starts’. The time of tribulation is near. We are in the time of sorrows. The earth is groaning. The signs are everywhere – wars and rumors of wars, pestulence and plagues, famines. The Lord Jesus Christ is coming back, and the Church isn’t ready. Arouse yourself and prepare yourself, for the Lord is coming. Arise and wait for Him. Be prepared and tell everyone you know. Jesus Christ is coming.”

On January 8, 2011, Mr. Wiles came out with an “one year anniversary” broadcast to review the message given a year ago. link: http://www.trunews.com/Audio/1_07_11_friday_trunews2.mp3

I eagerly tuned in. Was this to be the occasion that Mr. Wiles kept his promise before God and his listeners to publicly admit error, and agree to never speak on behalf of the Lord again? No, this was not the case. Sadly, this opportunity to make things right was turned into a “panel discussion” with 5 guests about whether or not the original message had indeed been a true word from the Lord. And who was on the panel? One person I had never heard of, but two were frequent guests on his show, (Mr. Nathan Leal, and Mr. Augusto Perez, who are also heavily into the prophecy realm on the internet) and the other two were announced as members of Mr. Wiles’ Board of Directors. (I think the legal profession would refer to this as a “rigged jury.”)

In this anniversary broadcast, explanations were given as to why events in 2010 didn’t seem to concur with what the message had stated. It was offered that things “were set in motion” in 2010, which would not be brought to fruition until a later date. It was offered that the “big event” that the Holy Spirit told him about was the body scanners and body searches occurring in the nation’s airports. It was offered that Mr. Wiles never left the country in 2010 because the start of the America’s Hope project was delayed.

In brief, Mr. Wiles fell miles short of admitting any error. No assurance was given to the listeners that he will stop issuing messages from the Lord in the future. The spirit of the anniversary broadcast could only be described by any reasonable listener as a defense of the original message being a genuine word from the Holy Spirit. Please listen for yourself, so there will be no question of misquoting anyone.

In conclusion, I would make the following points:

God does not just hear our words, He knows our hearts, and he reads the heart, or spirit of everything we do. We all need to be accountable for the spirit of what we say and do. I submit that the spirit of Mr. Wiles message of Jan. 8, 2010 was that the Holy Spirit told him America would be utterly devestated by a major incident occurring sometime just before or during the last three months of the year in 2010. The devestation would be so severe that some of us who were healthy enough should consider leaving the country. He stated the Holy Spirit told him he would be out of the country before 2010 ended. He reiterated the dramatic nature of the coming event in a later message, (May 24), and stated that the major incident of 2010 the Holy Spirit told him about would be a nuclear explosion. There was no doubt about when, it was clearly to be sometime in the latter part of 2010. This was the spirit of the message. People who are clever with words can find loopholes to obscure the real meaning of any message, but all we need to do is look to the spirit of the message to know what is really being said.

Nobody is misquoting anyone. Nobody is taking anyone out of context. Nobody is twisting words. Words are being scrutinized because they have been represented to the body of Christians as the words of the Holy Spirit. Could anything less be expected? If the words are from God, they should be able to stand up to scrutiny.

When a person stands up in a public broadcast and announces he is speaking words given to him from the Holy Spirit about the future, that person shouldn’t be offended when some of the listeners want to hold up the words to the light of day to seek confirmation for themselves.  Mr. Wiles calls these people his “enemies“. People calling for scrutiny of such serious public statements as this does not make them  the “enemies” of the prophet who spoke. And when the future timeframe stated in the prophecy arrives, and fails to confirm that it was the Holy Spirit speaking, and still the prophet steadfastly sticks to his story that it was, ……..well, any student of the Bible will know about how serious this is. (Luke 12:10)

The odd thing to me is that we all know these bad times and wicked events are coming. We don’t need anything other than the Bible to know this. What we don’t know is when. Why do some in the body always insist on stepping forward to be the ones God reveals His timelines to? The ones who are truly going to inherit the best of the riches of the kingdom of heaven are the ones who are now silently and anonomously working to bring the gospel to all corners of the earth, without regard to personal aggrandisement or recognition, not the ones waving their arms back and forth, saying “look over here, I’ve got the truth.”

Its so sad how so many Christians these days just insist on getting their sense of direction from men. They either don’t have enough faith or self-assurance to just open up the Bible and let it, and prayer, obedience, and a personal relationship with Christ be the guiding lights in their lives.

………….published by endtimedelusion          a blog of JD Ellis 

 

 

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97 Responses to Rick Wiles and the devastation of America in 2010: a muddied cup of prophecy

  1. Mike, no matter how sure you are that I am this person you are hunting down, it doesn’t make you right. I didn’t X out my name. I am not going to respond to any more posts about this couple.
    JD Ellis

  2. Rhonda Singleton says:

    I have watched and listened to Rick and the Trunews ministry for 10 years. He’s been putting his neck on the line for years so that we can all be informed. Is he perfect, no , of course not he’s human. We have no clue what he’s gone through or sacrificed to share the gospel and help so many people. Rick’s ministry has been around for a long time. This fly by night blog is posted by some anonymous person and this is supposed to make me question Rick’s integrity? Plain old common sense would say otherwise. A simple test of the fruits would confirm what common sense speaks.

  3. Thank you for your response. I believe he has done great work in news reporting and interviewing.
    But announcing that you are delivering a message from the Holy Spirit is very serious business. Its not something anyone with a microphone can “take a shot” at. The third commandment itself tells us how serious God is about protecting His word. If you have ever been misquoted, I’m sure you didn’t like it much. Imagine how much more serious it is to do this to the eternal God.
    I think he has aggravated the seriousness of the matter by not coming clean as promised. That “panel discussion” on Jan. 7 did nothing at all to take accountability. Christians were struck with fear last year, and some may have actually quit their jobs and fled.

  4. steve says:

    “But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.” Deuteronomy 18:20.

    Good thing for rick we are under the new covenant But as we know god is the same yesterday , today and forever. This is just one of many verses that indicate the lords feelings about speaking false words in his name .

  5. Amen. Its so clear that we don’t put words in God’s mouth. Its one of the clearest concepts in the Bible. But if we as Christians dare to point this out, we are attacked by the followers of these “watchmen.” They never want to argue from scripture, because it doesn’t support what they are doing. They don’t have the slightest compassion for those whose lives were turned upside down from fear upon hearing and believing that indeed it was the Holy Spirit issuing this fearsome 2010 warning.

    Apparently we as Christians are expected by these people to just look the other way when they teach their falsehood in the body of the church, which instills fear in people’s hearts, and causes them to stumble by turning away from scripture as their source of truth. We need to pray that these internet watchmen come to accept accountability for the harm they do, and turn from these practices.

    Sure, lets all store some food and supplies for emergencies, that is just common sense. But do we need to listen to and support internet ministers to find out what God is saying? Isn’t that the opposite of what the Bible teaches, that we are to seek the words of God, and not the words of men?

    God will speak to us individually, when we nurture a close relationship with Him through prayer, obedience, and reading His word. He will let us know what He wants each of us to do, and when to do it. We need to wait on the Lord’s word, not flee everytime the watchmen say: “the time is now! God told me the time is now!”

  6. Yes. That’s the key point, that we get the truth from God directly, we don’t need the middlemen. These guys on the internet don’t pass any of the tests of the true prophet.

  7. Ox says:

    Does somebody has experience with Nathan LeaL

  8. Nathan Leal is a frequent guest on Rick Wiles show, who declares himself to be a “watchman” for our Lord, receiving messages regularly from the Holy Spirit, and passing those messages on to us over the internet. He declares that basically everything in the news that is negative is the hand of God’s judgment on America. He openly describes himself as a fear-monger, and declares that it is part of his job …. .. . see mp3 broadcast: http://watchmanscry.com/audio/broadcast_160.mp3 at the 55 minute mark.
    I am doing a post about fear-mongering in the church today, and what Jesus taught us about it.

  9. Keith Bruner says:

    My wife and I have problems with Rick. We listened for years and we sent money to help with various “projects”. Most of those projects just up and vanished. I still don’t know if the oxen that the Canadian fellow bought ever got delivered to the tribe in Indonesia. Where did Trevor go? Other questions with no answers that we heard. I have not listened to the shows mentioned…yet. And all that said; I pray for Rick, I like Rick and he is not against Jesus, he is for Jesus, and he talks about Jesus and he talks about repentance.

    And I do think that any time a man is standing up and speaking Jesus, he is going to get attacked by Satan and sometimes that man will be caught by Satan for a time. I think praying for Rick is the best thing any of us can do.

  10. Steve says:

    There is a time for everything under the son . I love mercy and receive it daily when i confess and repent . Rick may preach it that just makes him a classic hypocrite .
    The day he takes responsibility admits he was wrong and stops the wrong will be the very moment mercy and grace will be extended.
    I agree praying for rick is good . And then point out the false prophet so that more well meaning folks don’t throw away hard earned money or worse loose faith in the lord because of what was falsely spoken in his name .

  11. Gayle says:

    Yes….the oxen was delivered to the tribe in the Phillipines. I’m impressed with all this ministry does. Instead of the few that wasn’t completed, let’s recognize all that has been. I’ve watched and have listened to Trunews for many years. He does a lot of good work for those in need. I’ll continue listening too. He’s the only watchman out there that tries to give to the poor and take care of widows. I’ve met him and his family…they’re good honest God fearing people.

  12. Toto says:

    Would you like to see the pictures of the ox given to the tribe? I saw them for myself on their website. I’m sure if I contacted Trunews they would email them to you. It was the Philippines not Indonesia.

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