Rick Wiles and the devastation of America in 2010: a muddied cup of prophecy

Rick Wiles and Trunews want to close the books on 2010 prophecy

Background to the story: …..January 8. 2010 – Rick Wiles issues a message through his Trunews.com ministry that he clearly labels as a message he received from the Holy Spirit after a period of prayer and fasting. The mp3 broadcast link is:http://www.trunews.com/Audio/1_08_10_friday_trunews2.mp3

Some of the points made on the Jan. 8 2010 broadcast were as follows: (all quotes taken from the transcript, please check mp3 link for actual broadcast), followed by my comments :

Last 3 months of 2010 will be brutal for America. The storm that will hit in the last 3 months of the year will not destroy America but it will stagger and stun the nation. There will be a great disruption in the nations commerce, communications, transportations and supply lines that will impact America for years. Tell my people to use the first 6 months of 2010 to prepare for the last 3 months. A year of bloodshed , violence, terror and fear

. …………..my comment: I am unaware of any such event having occurred in the U.S in 2010. Also, what was especially brutal about the last 3 months of the year, that wasn’t in play during the first 9 months?

Rick will broadcast from a remote location.
He has peace about where God is sending him. Has too many enemies.
By end of 2010 Rick must leave USA to do the work
Rick Wiles will leave – will go somewhere else before end of 2010. America’s Hope tent meetings will take place first – he expects that will be his last ministry inside the borders of the USA. …………..

my comments: None of the above occurred. Rick Wiles stayed at his home in Florida. The explanation he gives now (refer to new Jan. 8 2011 broadcast, referenced below) is that he stayed because God told him he would finalize the America’s Hope tent project first, before leaving the country. …….Hmmmm, I’m pretty sure God knew that the tent project would not be completed in 2010. Also, I think it would be wise for him to  learn the difference between “enemies” and people who look at his words closely because they are presented to be from God.

This is life and death. Your life will depend upon your going to the Lord in prayer and fasting during the first 3 months of this new year (2010)

………..my comment: I don’t know about anyone else, but there’s something wierd about an internet minister telling me how I need to do this in the first 3 months of the year, or I will be dead.

In his May 24, 2010, broadcast, link : http://www.trunews.com/Audio/5_24_10_monday_trunews2.mp3 Mr. Wiles took a big step forward in clarifying the nature of this big event that was coming in 2010 that would stagger and change the face of the country, and cut communication and transportation lines, etc. (as stated in the Jan. 8 broadcast). He named it as specifically being a nuclear explosion. He made it clear to his listeners that if what the Holy Spirit told him in January 2010 proved to be wrong he would do the right thing and publicly announce that he will never again say the Lord spoke to him.  The following is taken word-for-word from the last 3 minutes of this May 24 broadcast:

“My friends, we’re on the verge of a nuclear explosion in this country – the Lord told me at the beginning of this year, January 8, 2010. I came out of a fast and walked into this studio and told you what the Holy Spirit told me, and I’m standing by it. If I did not hear from God during that week of fasting, then I’ll never hear God. And I hope I’m wrong, I hope I hope I hope I’m wrong. With all my heart I hope I’m wrong. I hope I’m totally humiliated and never prophesy again, because I don’t want what I saw to come true. But what I heard the Holy Spirit tell me during that week of fasting at the beginning of this year, was that we had three months to seek Him in prayer and fasting, to seek His face and He would give us a plan. We would have 6 months to prepare and the last 3 months of 2010 – He said we will need His mercy to get through the last 3 months. I’m going to stand by it. Again, if I didn’t hear God, then I can’t hear God. If that wasn’t God speaking to me then I will never again as long as I live say that the Lord spoke to me. And I’m telling you tonight that everything is lining up towards a World War this year. One of the things the Holy Spirit told me in January was that many people will die in 2010, including many Christians. And He said ‘do not mourn or grieve the death of so many Christians. It is my mercy, I am taking them out of this world as tribulation starts’. The time of tribulation is near. We are in the time of sorrows. The earth is groaning. The signs are everywhere – wars and rumors of wars, pestulence and plagues, famines. The Lord Jesus Christ is coming back, and the Church isn’t ready. Arouse yourself and prepare yourself, for the Lord is coming. Arise and wait for Him. Be prepared and tell everyone you know. Jesus Christ is coming.”

On January 8, 2011, Mr. Wiles came out with an “one year anniversary” broadcast to review the message given a year ago. link: http://www.trunews.com/Audio/1_07_11_friday_trunews2.mp3

I eagerly tuned in. Was this to be the occasion that Mr. Wiles kept his promise before God and his listeners to publicly admit error, and agree to never speak on behalf of the Lord again? No, this was not the case. Sadly, this opportunity to make things right was turned into a “panel discussion” with 5 guests about whether or not the original message had indeed been a true word from the Lord. And who was on the panel? One person I had never heard of, but two were frequent guests on his show, (Mr. Nathan Leal, and Mr. Augusto Perez, who are also heavily into the prophecy realm on the internet) and the other two were announced as members of Mr. Wiles’ Board of Directors. (I think the legal profession would refer to this as a “rigged jury.”)

In this anniversary broadcast, explanations were given as to why events in 2010 didn’t seem to concur with what the message had stated. It was offered that things “were set in motion” in 2010, which would not be brought to fruition until a later date. It was offered that the “big event” that the Holy Spirit told him about was the body scanners and body searches occurring in the nation’s airports. It was offered that Mr. Wiles never left the country in 2010 because the start of the America’s Hope project was delayed.

In brief, Mr. Wiles fell miles short of admitting any error. No assurance was given to the listeners that he will stop issuing messages from the Lord in the future. The spirit of the anniversary broadcast could only be described by any reasonable listener as a defense of the original message being a genuine word from the Holy Spirit. Please listen for yourself, so there will be no question of misquoting anyone.

In conclusion, I would make the following points:

God does not just hear our words, He knows our hearts, and he reads the heart, or spirit of everything we do. We all need to be accountable for the spirit of what we say and do. I submit that the spirit of Mr. Wiles message of Jan. 8, 2010 was that the Holy Spirit told him America would be utterly devestated by a major incident occurring sometime just before or during the last three months of the year in 2010. The devestation would be so severe that some of us who were healthy enough should consider leaving the country. He stated the Holy Spirit told him he would be out of the country before 2010 ended. He reiterated the dramatic nature of the coming event in a later message, (May 24), and stated that the major incident of 2010 the Holy Spirit told him about would be a nuclear explosion. There was no doubt about when, it was clearly to be sometime in the latter part of 2010. This was the spirit of the message. People who are clever with words can find loopholes to obscure the real meaning of any message, but all we need to do is look to the spirit of the message to know what is really being said.

Nobody is misquoting anyone. Nobody is taking anyone out of context. Nobody is twisting words. Words are being scrutinized because they have been represented to the body of Christians as the words of the Holy Spirit. Could anything less be expected? If the words are from God, they should be able to stand up to scrutiny.

When a person stands up in a public broadcast and announces he is speaking words given to him from the Holy Spirit about the future, that person shouldn’t be offended when some of the listeners want to hold up the words to the light of day to seek confirmation for themselves.  Mr. Wiles calls these people his “enemies“. People calling for scrutiny of such serious public statements as this does not make them  the “enemies” of the prophet who spoke. And when the future timeframe stated in the prophecy arrives, and fails to confirm that it was the Holy Spirit speaking, and still the prophet steadfastly sticks to his story that it was, ……..well, any student of the Bible will know about how serious this is. (Luke 12:10)

The odd thing to me is that we all know these bad times and wicked events are coming. We don’t need anything other than the Bible to know this. What we don’t know is when. Why do some in the body always insist on stepping forward to be the ones God reveals His timelines to? The ones who are truly going to inherit the best of the riches of the kingdom of heaven are the ones who are now silently and anonomously working to bring the gospel to all corners of the earth, without regard to personal aggrandisement or recognition, not the ones waving their arms back and forth, saying “look over here, I’ve got the truth.”

Its so sad how so many Christians these days just insist on getting their sense of direction from men. They either don’t have enough faith or self-assurance to just open up the Bible and let it, and prayer, obedience, and a personal relationship with Christ be the guiding lights in their lives.

………….published by endtimedelusion          a blog of JD Ellis 

 

 

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97 Responses to Rick Wiles and the devastation of America in 2010: a muddied cup of prophecy

  1. Skip says:

    Rick Wiles of Trunews is a real watchman. I remember him talking and warning many years ago about what is happening today. Thank God for those that love the Lord enough to be their life on the line. Careful not to touch those that are annointed.
    Skip

  2. Skip, is that your idea of an “annointing” to announce before thousands in a radio broadcast that the Holy Spirit told him that the U.S. would be brought to its knees by a nuclear explosion in the last part of 2010? A person with a true annointing would never put his own words out and claim they are from the Lord Himself.

    Don’t you think that at the very least a public apology is owed to those who were struck with fear by this announcement, to say nothing about those who may have actually quit their jobs and uprooted their families to flee? Or at least a public announcement that he will never again speak on behalf of the Lord? Is there not a requirement for a true Christian to show at least some compassion for those who truly believed this was the Holy Spirit speaking, and suffered as a result?

    As far as “putting his life on the line’ for the Lord, as I think you meant, nothing could be farther from the truth. In fact, just to the contrary, he has clearly announced his intention to make a hasty exit from the U.S. and set up shop in an “undisclosed location”, because he has, in his very own words, “too many enemies”.

    If you think a little internet flak on blogs and websites is too much heat, just consider this: right now as we speak there are Christian missionaries spreading the good news of the Gospel in remote, dangerous, anti-Christian countries who are literally putting their lives on the line every day, at risk of torture and death. They do not ask for funding from the public, nor do they trumpet their achievements in public. They do it without the need or desire for the recognition of their fellow men, and without broadcasting for all to hear what they are doing. They work in anonimity and with a humble heart. These people are in my opinion the modern day heroes of the Christian faith.

    ………………….JD Ellis

  3. Skip says:

    Dear JD,
    It’s time you remove the poisonous root that has so deeply effected you called bitterness, known as displaced anger. All of your energy has effected you mentally. There is no joy when your heart is full of anger. You’re especially being effected spiritually.
    Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you. Esphesians 4:31
    Bitterness motivates gossip and complaining. Are you still holding a grudge about something that happened long ago? It’s time to move on. Any unresolved bitterness in your life means you are not right with God, you are walking in the flesh and not the Spirit. Release all of the unforgiveness that you have been holding on to and allow God to free you of this bitterness that you have been holding for so long. For your sake and others…..cleanse your heart.

  4. Thanks for your deep concern about my spiritual well-being, brother Skip. It shows your heart is in the right place. I’m afraid I have to give you a failing grade, however, in your foray into psychological analysis. I’ll explain why.

    You started off by correctly identifying anger as an underlying passion in my words. This is good, as I don’t disguise my anger when it is called for in the context of the topic. But sadly, from that point on your analysis takes a sharp turn southward, as you flail about in Freudian attempts to identify the source of the anger, the nature of the anger, and suggest methods for its removal.

    My anger, brother Skip, is not a “poisonous root” that must be removed, as you suggest. Nowhere in the New Testament will you find Jesus stating that anger is never justified. Read the Gospels, especially the book of Matthew, very carefully, Skip, and you will find that the Lord Himself used anger on several occasions. In Matthew 23 Jesus launches into a very lengthy tirade against the Pharisees for outwardly appearing to be righteous to others, but inwardly being full of hypocrisy. The entire Chapter is an account of His anger toward those people. He despised the way they openly displayed and talked about their praying and fasting for all to see how “annointed” they were. (A common habit we see today with many of the self-appointed Internet ministers). He called them a “brood of vipers”, far stronger language than I have used in any of my writings. Do you think that this episode indicates Jesus conducted His ministry carrying about with Him a “poisonous root” of bitterness?

    You go on to state: “Bitterness motivates gossip and complaining. Are you still holding a grudge about something that happened long ago? It’s time to move on. Any unresolved bitterness in your life means you are not right with God, you are walking in the flesh and not the Spirit.”…………….Brother Skip, I think you spend too much time reading up on do-it-yourself psychoanalysis, and not enough time reading the pure Gospel. In the incident at the temple, related in Matthew 21, Jesus literally lashed out at the merchants with whips and overturned their tables. Did Jesus do this because He had some unresolved issue in His life that was creating a bitterness He was unable to deal with? Did it mean He was “walking in the flesh”? Was His anger unleashed because of something that happened to Him long before as a young man growing up in Nazareth? No. He become so enraged at the merchants because they were turning things that should have been for the glory of God into a commercial enterprise. I believe if He was walking the earth today, He would display the same kind of anger toward many of the Internet ministers/political commentators that have set up shop in the past decade.

    There is no need to be so concerned about what you think are my unresolved issues, Skip. God is helping me every day to live more in line with what Christ taught us. We as humans sometimes become so concerned about the speck we see in another’s eye, that we ignore the log in our own eye. You choose to issue comments on my blog that warn me, judge me, and analyze what you perceive as my spiritual shortcomings, but not a word of what you have posted so far has been on the topic of the blog. Still, in an effort to be fair, I have posted everything you said.

    Diligently seek the Lord for answers as to why you are so aloof, undisturbed and uncaring about false prophecy and the damage it inflicts, both individually on believers, and on the Christian community as a whole. The topic of this blog, which you have declined to address, is a serious false prophecy given for the year 2010. Is the reason you make no mention of the prophecy of 2010 because you know in your heart that it was a serious offense against the Holy Spirit? And that as such it is indefensible? Are you simply unable to access that part of your heart that holds compassion for your brothers in Christ who are harmed by false teachings? Are you unable to have the discernment to recognize how this falsehood reflects badly on the entire body of Christ? Do you harbor resentment toward the many former listeners of his show who are now speaking out against the falsehood, because you worry that their comments are casting an unfavorable light on a ministry which you hold in high regard? Whatever your reasons, I suggest to you that anyone who is spiritually set adrift by a false prophecy or teaching deserves every compassion and consideration, and deserves to be warned about it so they may not be harmed again in the future. Another thing they deserve, which I don’t believe they are ever going to get, is for the false prophet to come forward in full view of the church and accept full accountability and admit the error. Holding ourselves accountable for our actions and the damage that results is not just a Christian concept, it is a universal tenet of living that even children understand.

    You claim to have received information annointed by God from his internet broadcasts years ago that you find instrumental in understanding what is taking place today. By all means, continue to listen to them, if you are convinced of their spiritual value. I find that my spiritual growth comes from studying the Word of God, and it never fails to give me all the information I need about what is going on in the world today, and what is to come. I am not at all willing to compromise in areas of faith that are so fundamental and unchangeable as the doctrine of not speaking falsely on behalf of the Lord.

    There are so many scriptures that warn us against bearing false witness of the Lord, they are too numerous to mention here. If the topic was important enough for God to warn us against, I think its something we all need to be alert about, and not just sweep under the rug for fear of offending anyone. The entire book of Jeremiah, especially Chapter 23, gives us a good look at how seriously God takes it when we put words in His mouth. The Third Commandment makes it clear as well that God defends and protects His word. It is the height of human arrogance to think we can just plug a microphone into a computer, and start issuing statements from God.

    In your final comment, you stated: “Release all of the unforgiveness that you have been holding on to and allow God to free you of this bitterness that you have been holding for so long. For your sake and others…..cleanse your heart.”……………..Speaking up against false prophecy is not a lack of “forgiveness”, Skip. I forgive all who offend me, as the Lord instructed me to do. But forgiveness does not involve turning a blind eye to dangerous error in the body of the church. Nowhere in the Bible will you find the teaching that forgiveness of your brother who is in error means approving of or even tolerating his false understandings. Did Jesus teach us to be tolerant of false teachers? On the contrary, Christian forgiveness involves admonishing the errant one in an attempt to bring them back into the fold. This can obviously be accomplished much more easily when the errant one opens his heart to the truth and voluntarily comes forward in front of the body. This is not the case in this instance. But our part is merely to extend the forgiveness. The rest is up to the person and how he responds to the calling of the Holy Spirit to mend the damage he has inflicted on himself and others in the body.

    After extending forgiveness, the next thing we in the body should do is sound an alarm, so that others in the flock may not be harmed. False teachings are like snares and traps along the path that we tread in our walk with Christ. As we walk the path with our brothers in Christ, should we not speak out if we see a trap lies ahead?

    The peace of the Lord be with you, …………………..JD Ellis

  5. Byron says:

    totally agree with you.

  6. SG Barlow says:

    I have allot of God’s love and respect for Rick, his family, and his ministry. But it’s obvious that he did the wrong thing in not being completely honest . He was the one that made a big deal out of saying he wouldn’t prophesy anymore if the Word He received didn’t come to pass. Nobody Forced him! To me, that’s what he should have asked God’s forgiveness for. He didn’t just promise men, he promised God!! My heart is “sick” that there wasn’t any man on the panel that spoke up for God’s oath! If Rick is the man of God I think he is, God will set it all straight, in His own perfect way. JD, you’ve taken a real beating for standing up for the truth. I believe you said what the Bible says concerning the matter.
    God Bless you. SG

  7. upontheedge says:

    Rick Wiles to me, in the final analysis is just another guy trying to make a living “off” the Lord and not for the Lord. I really think he is an agent of the shadow Government whose mission is provide an outlet of alternative media controlled by the Elites. He will tout from time to time mainstream birther info and Obama this and that. He like alot of others and is basically to provide another distraction to the sheeple who would otherwise be looking for the real thievery going on. I think he fits this profile to a “T”

  8. Wiles is a newsman and a financial expert. He could probably give college level lectures on offshore investment, tax shelters, and the like. If he just stayed in that arena, and stopped trying to play preacher and prophet, I would have no problem with him at all.

    I remember many years ago, when I actually thought he had a godly ministry, he issued an appeal for funds. He actually stated that his ministry was down to its last $500, and money was desperately needed for a project he was starting in Africa. He was going to bring a portable well drilling rig into some country, Kenya as I recall, and so I donated to his ministry a sum of money that for me at the time was a substantial amount. This drilling rig would be taken from village to village, and thousands would benefit with plentiful, fresh water.

    Just a very short while later, he announces on air that he is holding a financial conference in West Palm Beach, Florida. He was sponsoring a conference to instruct listeners on what to do with their money, in terms of wealth preservation, tax shelters, investing in precious metals, and so on. He was giving directions on how to get from West Palm Beach airport to the ritzy hotel where he was putting on the conference. I remember getting a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach, as I realized this man’s priorities were in increasing his listener numbers, and the size of his ministry. For one thing, it would take many thousands of dollars to sponsor a three day financial conference at a major hotel in West Palm Beach. If he had suddenly gone from $500 in the bank, as he had said, to having thousands in a very short while, why was he spending his newly acquired money on a financial conference, instead of announcing on air how much he was putting in the Africa fund?

    And still people give, thinking they are giving for work for God’s Kingdom. I long ago stopped listening to his show, because I just don’t have the stomach for it anymore. The last I heard, he was trying to raise somethng in the range of several hundred thousand diollars for a state of the art news broadcasting studio and building. If this doesn’t tell you where his priorities lie, nothing will. But still people will give, and attack people like me who have the gall to point out that this is not God’s work.

  9. Yvette says:

    Some of what has been spoken of on true news has been confirming, but I do have some reservations. I believe Mr. Wiles needs to taper his subliminal requests for financial support, he seems too worried about his ministry… sounds too much like aggrandizing. We are all mere men.

  10. Randy says:

    As we know the Bible says that we will know a false prophet when he says, “This is what the Lord says”, and then his prophecy is not 100% accurate. He’s exposed as a false prophet. Rick Wiles is making money listening to a voice alright, but it’s not the Holy Spirit’s voice. Satan must be laughing at people that really believe Rick speaks for God Almighty!
    Having said that I do believe a judgment is coming to the USA for our rebellion against God Almighty of the Bible who made us great.
    So prepare my brothers and sisters by stopping all know sin in your life. We are Jesus’ bride and He’s coming for us. Blessings, PrepperVideo

  11. Amen to that. Its truly incredible how many Christians really believe true prophecy can be vague and inaccurate, when it comes from God!

    There may very well be judgment coming on the USA. Or then again, maybe not. The point is we don’t know for sure unless God tells us. So many people are so strident in declaring they know this for a fact. Its just like the earthquake in Haiti awhile back. So many of the Christians ministers were declaring it to be judgment for the practice of Voodoo in that country. Before that, it was Hurricane Katrina being declared as judgment from God on New Orleans for their planned homosexual parade and convention. Books have been written trying to prove that we can know these things.

    We stand on very shaky ground when we declare in front of a body of believers with a know-it-all, matter-of-fact attitude that we have reached the inner recesses of God’s mind, and know His purposes and plans for everyone. This is what people like Wiles have made a career out of, and it is not edifying to the church. When you call yourself a Christian minister, as he clearly does, this is unseemly and inappropriate at best, and heretical and apostate at its worst. Even more so when he has a long history of doing it and is completely unrepentant about past failed prophetic ventures.

    All blessings in Christ,
    JD Ellis

  12. GG says:

    Rick Wiles published a book in 1999 about Y2K that was also false information. I do not support Trunews but I do like some of the guest that he interviews.

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