Rick Wiles and the devastation of America in 2010: a muddied cup of prophecy

Rick Wiles and Trunews want to close the books on 2010 prophecy

Background to the story: …..January 8. 2010 – Rick Wiles issues a message through his Trunews.com ministry that he clearly labels as a message he received from the Holy Spirit after a period of prayer and fasting. The mp3 broadcast link is:http://www.trunews.com/Audio/1_08_10_friday_trunews2.mp3

Some of the points made on the Jan. 8 2010 broadcast were as follows: (all quotes taken from the transcript, please check mp3 link for actual broadcast), followed by my comments :

Last 3 months of 2010 will be brutal for America. The storm that will hit in the last 3 months of the year will not destroy America but it will stagger and stun the nation. There will be a great disruption in the nations commerce, communications, transportations and supply lines that will impact America for years. Tell my people to use the first 6 months of 2010 to prepare for the last 3 months. A year of bloodshed , violence, terror and fear

. …………..my comment: I am unaware of any such event having occurred in the U.S in 2010. Also, what was especially brutal about the last 3 months of the year, that wasn’t in play during the first 9 months?

Rick will broadcast from a remote location.
He has peace about where God is sending him. Has too many enemies.
By end of 2010 Rick must leave USA to do the work
Rick Wiles will leave – will go somewhere else before end of 2010. America’s Hope tent meetings will take place first – he expects that will be his last ministry inside the borders of the USA. …………..

my comments: None of the above occurred. Rick Wiles stayed at his home in Florida. The explanation he gives now (refer to new Jan. 8 2011 broadcast, referenced below) is that he stayed because God told him he would finalize the America’s Hope tent project first, before leaving the country. …….Hmmmm, I’m pretty sure God knew that the tent project would not be completed in 2010. Also, I think it would be wise for him to  learn the difference between “enemies” and people who look at his words closely because they are presented to be from God.

This is life and death. Your life will depend upon your going to the Lord in prayer and fasting during the first 3 months of this new year (2010)

………..my comment: I don’t know about anyone else, but there’s something wierd about an internet minister telling me how I need to do this in the first 3 months of the year, or I will be dead.

In his May 24, 2010, broadcast, link : http://www.trunews.com/Audio/5_24_10_monday_trunews2.mp3 Mr. Wiles took a big step forward in clarifying the nature of this big event that was coming in 2010 that would stagger and change the face of the country, and cut communication and transportation lines, etc. (as stated in the Jan. 8 broadcast). He named it as specifically being a nuclear explosion. He made it clear to his listeners that if what the Holy Spirit told him in January 2010 proved to be wrong he would do the right thing and publicly announce that he will never again say the Lord spoke to him.  The following is taken word-for-word from the last 3 minutes of this May 24 broadcast:

“My friends, we’re on the verge of a nuclear explosion in this country – the Lord told me at the beginning of this year, January 8, 2010. I came out of a fast and walked into this studio and told you what the Holy Spirit told me, and I’m standing by it. If I did not hear from God during that week of fasting, then I’ll never hear God. And I hope I’m wrong, I hope I hope I hope I’m wrong. With all my heart I hope I’m wrong. I hope I’m totally humiliated and never prophesy again, because I don’t want what I saw to come true. But what I heard the Holy Spirit tell me during that week of fasting at the beginning of this year, was that we had three months to seek Him in prayer and fasting, to seek His face and He would give us a plan. We would have 6 months to prepare and the last 3 months of 2010 – He said we will need His mercy to get through the last 3 months. I’m going to stand by it. Again, if I didn’t hear God, then I can’t hear God. If that wasn’t God speaking to me then I will never again as long as I live say that the Lord spoke to me. And I’m telling you tonight that everything is lining up towards a World War this year. One of the things the Holy Spirit told me in January was that many people will die in 2010, including many Christians. And He said ‘do not mourn or grieve the death of so many Christians. It is my mercy, I am taking them out of this world as tribulation starts’. The time of tribulation is near. We are in the time of sorrows. The earth is groaning. The signs are everywhere – wars and rumors of wars, pestulence and plagues, famines. The Lord Jesus Christ is coming back, and the Church isn’t ready. Arouse yourself and prepare yourself, for the Lord is coming. Arise and wait for Him. Be prepared and tell everyone you know. Jesus Christ is coming.”

On January 8, 2011, Mr. Wiles came out with an “one year anniversary” broadcast to review the message given a year ago. link: http://www.trunews.com/Audio/1_07_11_friday_trunews2.mp3

I eagerly tuned in. Was this to be the occasion that Mr. Wiles kept his promise before God and his listeners to publicly admit error, and agree to never speak on behalf of the Lord again? No, this was not the case. Sadly, this opportunity to make things right was turned into a “panel discussion” with 5 guests about whether or not the original message had indeed been a true word from the Lord. And who was on the panel? One person I had never heard of, but two were frequent guests on his show, (Mr. Nathan Leal, and Mr. Augusto Perez, who are also heavily into the prophecy realm on the internet) and the other two were announced as members of Mr. Wiles’ Board of Directors. (I think the legal profession would refer to this as a “rigged jury.”)

In this anniversary broadcast, explanations were given as to why events in 2010 didn’t seem to concur with what the message had stated. It was offered that things “were set in motion” in 2010, which would not be brought to fruition until a later date. It was offered that the “big event” that the Holy Spirit told him about was the body scanners and body searches occurring in the nation’s airports. It was offered that Mr. Wiles never left the country in 2010 because the start of the America’s Hope project was delayed.

In brief, Mr. Wiles fell miles short of admitting any error. No assurance was given to the listeners that he will stop issuing messages from the Lord in the future. The spirit of the anniversary broadcast could only be described by any reasonable listener as a defense of the original message being a genuine word from the Holy Spirit. Please listen for yourself, so there will be no question of misquoting anyone.

In conclusion, I would make the following points:

God does not just hear our words, He knows our hearts, and he reads the heart, or spirit of everything we do. We all need to be accountable for the spirit of what we say and do. I submit that the spirit of Mr. Wiles message of Jan. 8, 2010 was that the Holy Spirit told him America would be utterly devestated by a major incident occurring sometime just before or during the last three months of the year in 2010. The devestation would be so severe that some of us who were healthy enough should consider leaving the country. He stated the Holy Spirit told him he would be out of the country before 2010 ended. He reiterated the dramatic nature of the coming event in a later message, (May 24), and stated that the major incident of 2010 the Holy Spirit told him about would be a nuclear explosion. There was no doubt about when, it was clearly to be sometime in the latter part of 2010. This was the spirit of the message. People who are clever with words can find loopholes to obscure the real meaning of any message, but all we need to do is look to the spirit of the message to know what is really being said.

Nobody is misquoting anyone. Nobody is taking anyone out of context. Nobody is twisting words. Words are being scrutinized because they have been represented to the body of Christians as the words of the Holy Spirit. Could anything less be expected? If the words are from God, they should be able to stand up to scrutiny.

When a person stands up in a public broadcast and announces he is speaking words given to him from the Holy Spirit about the future, that person shouldn’t be offended when some of the listeners want to hold up the words to the light of day to seek confirmation for themselves.  Mr. Wiles calls these people his “enemies“. People calling for scrutiny of such serious public statements as this does not make them  the “enemies” of the prophet who spoke. And when the future timeframe stated in the prophecy arrives, and fails to confirm that it was the Holy Spirit speaking, and still the prophet steadfastly sticks to his story that it was, ……..well, any student of the Bible will know about how serious this is. (Luke 12:10)

The odd thing to me is that we all know these bad times and wicked events are coming. We don’t need anything other than the Bible to know this. What we don’t know is when. Why do some in the body always insist on stepping forward to be the ones God reveals His timelines to? The ones who are truly going to inherit the best of the riches of the kingdom of heaven are the ones who are now silently and anonomously working to bring the gospel to all corners of the earth, without regard to personal aggrandisement or recognition, not the ones waving their arms back and forth, saying “look over here, I’ve got the truth.”

Its so sad how so many Christians these days just insist on getting their sense of direction from men. They either don’t have enough faith or self-assurance to just open up the Bible and let it, and prayer, obedience, and a personal relationship with Christ be the guiding lights in their lives.

………….published by endtimedelusion          a blog of JD Ellis 

 

 

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97 Responses to Rick Wiles and the devastation of America in 2010: a muddied cup of prophecy

  1. Oh yes, 1999, that was when he was running around various shows being interviewed and telling everyone to buy and store large amounts of emergency supplies and storable food because Y2K would paralyze everything in society. Not much has changed. Now its God’s judgment on America that everyone should worry about and figure out ways to escape.

    Read your Bibles, folks. All you need is there. If God decides to judge someone, storing up survival gear isn’t going to help. If these are the last days for America, as he has been stating for almost 14 years, why is he constantly giving out information on how to escape and survive the judgment? Why isn’t he simply telling everyone to trust totally in God and go spread the gospel? Is he a Christian minister, or not? Its really hard to tell.

    All blessings in Christ,
    JD Ellis

  2. M.Sheda says:

    So does the prophecy itself bother you or that he picked a date? Because you have to be totally blind to spiritual things not to be able to foresee financial troubles and possible serious war threats in the very near future…

  3. Obviously, what is bothersome here is the abomination of a self-professed Christian minister who feels free to claim to hear messages from the Lord which the Lord tells him to pass on to his listeners. When the events fail to come to pass, as they always do, are we all to believe the Lord failed to instruct him properly? Since no apology has ever come from Mr. Wiles to his listeners, it seems he believes the Lord failed here.

    The person who is blind here is the person who doesn’t have the spiritual clarity to see it is the worst kind of offense against God to put the name of the Lord onto the lying dreams of men. The Bible is very clear about what the future holds for people who do this kind of thing. Since Wiles has been doing this for many years, and is totally unrepentant about it, we can only assume he is a Christian minister who has absolutely no fear of the Lord. May God open his heart to the danger he is facing, and the damage he is doing to the body of believers, in delivering false “messages from God” to the undiscerning listeners, who are in large extent God-fearing Christians who deserve better from someone they follow as a minister of the Christian faith.

    Its not about the problems we are facing, its about falsely claiming God is giving him special insight into the situation through dreams and visions, or the dreams and visions of guests on his show, and then passing that on to his listeners as God’s revelation. This is the apostasy of the endtime spoken of in the New Testament when men have itching ears and turn to the false words of men and away from the word of God.

    As for the problems themselves, even thinking on a purely secular level, how can we take seriously someone who says all these horrendous things are supposedly about to happen any day, and at the same time he is telling us all these things, he himself doesn’t even think the situation is serious enough to take himself and his immediate family and get them to safety out of the country? Even Lot, in the Old Testament accounts of Sodom and Gomorrah, had enough spiritual clarity to realize that if God is truly telling you he is going to bring great destruction down upon a city or country, you leave and take all of your family with you and don’t look back.

    Obviously he is hedging his bets in case all this stuff isn’t really from God, or he would have been long gone. Or worse still, he knows perfectly well none of this “dream and vision” stuff is from God, but is willing to peddle it to the listeners as genuine. Whichever scenario applies, it speaks very poorly for his ministry.

    JD Ellis

  4. This is about all I have to say about this. I did some research on Ricks Prophecy & according to The European Times there was a Nuclear Attack on America in May of 2010 Link http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/nuclear-attack-on-nebraska-us-air-force-base-foiled/ Another thing was that I had asked The LORD about The Rapture. I asked HIM why there would not be a Pre-Trib Rapture & HE said, “Because the Bride is not ready.” A few days later Nathan Leahl was on TruNews & said the very same thing! Why don’t you go after a REAL FALSE PROPHET! I just gave you the proof of a nuclear attack & was obviously kept out of the Mainstream Media as most signifcant true reports are!

  5. What a completely astonishing comment to imply that Wiles was right in this 2010 blasphemous “prophecy”. He said the Holy Spirit told him the country would be brought to its knees, with all communication lines cut. He promised before the Holy Spirit, with all his listeners as witnesses, that he would never have anything to do with prophecy again if the 2010 word failed. He arrogantly and mockingly continues today to make prophetic words, dreams, and visions a big part of his ministry. These are the arrogant types, with no repentance in their hearts.

    You are actually quoting the EU Times? Have you even researched this media source? They are a joke. Not even a pretense of being a reliable news source. To believe anything from this source shows how undiscerning you are. But I guess you need to rely on this source for your “news” if you want so desperately to believe in Rick Wiles.

    Rick Wiles is one of those rare breeds that is one hundred percent wrong, one hundred percent of the time. Find me any major “inside scoop”, or any “prophetic word”, or any “dream or vision” that he has ever discussed on his show over the 13 years it has been aired that wasn’t proven false over time.

    Rick Wiles, who you staunchly defend, claims to run a Christian ministry. If you, or Rick Wiles, or Nathan Leal, are really Christians, then you all need to get off of this ridiculous bandwagon of fear-based nonsense, “prophetic words” that never come to pass, and using scare tactics for popularity and personal gain.

    You need to stop bending your knee to Baal, and open up your Bibles right away. Read the parts about how we are commanded to not fear that which can only kill the body, but to fear that which can kill the soul. Stop getting your instructions from the words of men, and start getting them from God’s word.

    You people are dying of thirst because you won’t drink the living water offered by Jesus. You lap up the poison offered by these men, and foresake God. I pray that you may let the power of Christ shine light into those recesses of your soul that have been so darkened by these Satanic influences.

    JD Ellis

  6. C. Craft says:

    Wiles is one of the false prophets for told by the One and Only. No one will know the end time not man, and not even the angles, only the Father will know.

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  8. I don’t know Nathan Leahl, Rick WIles or any of the people you mentioned personally! I can tell you this Obama will remain in power because he is the king of Babylon & this country is Mystery Babylon! Now I didn’t learn that absolute truth from Rick but from The Holy Spirit! Pastor T.D. Hale had a prophetic dream & according to his dream Obama will remain in power! I saw a comment on your page & you claim that no prophecy will be given in this generation! JOEL CH 2 vs [28] And it shall come to pass after this, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy: your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions. [29] Moreover upon my servants and handmaids in those days I will pour forth my spirit. [30] And I will shew wonders in heaven; and in earth, blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke.

    GODS word says different. And furthermore your apostate friend T.D. Jakes is preaching The prosperity gospel & maybe Rick has spoken of this in his show & maybe that why youcriticize him. Well I don’t know but Rick doesn’t claim to be a Prophet & he did say that what he said weas straight out of the prayer room. But I don’t follow Rick but I pray for him because we are all going to make mistakes!

  9. What?? Did you actually say “your apostate friend T.D. Jakes”?? I have never commented on this person, nor do I endorse him in any way.

    Take it easy on the beer there, watchman. That stuff’ll kill ya, mate.

    JD Ellis

  10. I don’t drink but if your name is googled or binged,etc… There is a bishop with your name & he is amember of the same church of T.D. Jakes. You must no be him! Sorry. I am extremely disappointed in Rick WIles & I do not get my main source of news from him. For darn near a year he has warned us that Obama is gonna unleash evil on our land & now he says its not gonna happen! I am going with what The LORD is telling me! Obama king of Babylon! Right now I am listening to his show & he is now saying Romney will win! I now take what he says with a grain of salt!

  11. Thank you for the clarification and apology, watchman. I understand there is someone else who has a similar name. No harm, no foul.

    I am right now reading a book written by Rick Wiles in 1999. It is all about the “end of the world as we know it” because all the computers are going to fail on News Years Eve, 1999.

    He just recycles the same old tired fear-based stories today, as he did in his book 13 years ago. He even talks about the thousands of Russian Spetznatz commandos coming into the U.S. from Canada, in his book that was published in 1999!!!! How people can follow this guy year after year and not catch on to what his game is, astonishes me. We all need to develop more discernment. (By the way, I bought his book on Amazon for 5 cents. No kidding!!)

    As you say, just follow the Lord. Why would anyone put their trust in what any human says, when we have the word of God?

    God bless you, and keep you on your journey without wavering.

    JD Ellis

  12. Thank you & pray that people will repent & turn their hearts to The LORD JESUS CHRIST! I looked up Pastor T.D. Hale on Facebook,”the one that had a ‘Prophetic Dream,’ about the election. I prayed about it before I posted the TruNews Broadcast on my site. Yes I have made mistakes in the past when I 1st started the blog & The LORD of HOSTS always shows me my mistakes. I asked Pastor Hale about Habukkuk CH vs 4-8 & asked him if they referred to Obama & he said he would be sending me an e-mail soon. It appears that his dream is authentic & from The LORD! I haven’t received his message yet but I will be patient. Peace be with you.

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