Rick Wiles and the devastation of America in 2010: a muddied cup of prophecy

Rick Wiles and Trunews want to close the books on 2010 prophecy

Background to the story: …..January 8. 2010 – Rick Wiles issues a message through his Trunews.com ministry that he clearly labels as a message he received from the Holy Spirit after a period of prayer and fasting. The mp3 broadcast link is:http://www.trunews.com/Audio/1_08_10_friday_trunews2.mp3

Some of the points made on the Jan. 8 2010 broadcast were as follows: (all quotes taken from the transcript, please check mp3 link for actual broadcast), followed by my comments :

Last 3 months of 2010 will be brutal for America. The storm that will hit in the last 3 months of the year will not destroy America but it will stagger and stun the nation. There will be a great disruption in the nations commerce, communications, transportations and supply lines that will impact America for years. Tell my people to use the first 6 months of 2010 to prepare for the last 3 months. A year of bloodshed , violence, terror and fear

. …………..my comment: I am unaware of any such event having occurred in the U.S in 2010. Also, what was especially brutal about the last 3 months of the year, that wasn’t in play during the first 9 months?

Rick will broadcast from a remote location.
He has peace about where God is sending him. Has too many enemies.
By end of 2010 Rick must leave USA to do the work
Rick Wiles will leave – will go somewhere else before end of 2010. America’s Hope tent meetings will take place first – he expects that will be his last ministry inside the borders of the USA. …………..

my comments: None of the above occurred. Rick Wiles stayed at his home in Florida. The explanation he gives now (refer to new Jan. 8 2011 broadcast, referenced below) is that he stayed because God told him he would finalize the America’s Hope tent project first, before leaving the country. …….Hmmmm, I’m pretty sure God knew that the tent project would not be completed in 2010. Also, I think it would be wise for him to  learn the difference between “enemies” and people who look at his words closely because they are presented to be from God.

This is life and death. Your life will depend upon your going to the Lord in prayer and fasting during the first 3 months of this new year (2010)

………..my comment: I don’t know about anyone else, but there’s something wierd about an internet minister telling me how I need to do this in the first 3 months of the year, or I will be dead.

In his May 24, 2010, broadcast, link : http://www.trunews.com/Audio/5_24_10_monday_trunews2.mp3 Mr. Wiles took a big step forward in clarifying the nature of this big event that was coming in 2010 that would stagger and change the face of the country, and cut communication and transportation lines, etc. (as stated in the Jan. 8 broadcast). He named it as specifically being a nuclear explosion. He made it clear to his listeners that if what the Holy Spirit told him in January 2010 proved to be wrong he would do the right thing and publicly announce that he will never again say the Lord spoke to him.  The following is taken word-for-word from the last 3 minutes of this May 24 broadcast:

“My friends, we’re on the verge of a nuclear explosion in this country – the Lord told me at the beginning of this year, January 8, 2010. I came out of a fast and walked into this studio and told you what the Holy Spirit told me, and I’m standing by it. If I did not hear from God during that week of fasting, then I’ll never hear God. And I hope I’m wrong, I hope I hope I hope I’m wrong. With all my heart I hope I’m wrong. I hope I’m totally humiliated and never prophesy again, because I don’t want what I saw to come true. But what I heard the Holy Spirit tell me during that week of fasting at the beginning of this year, was that we had three months to seek Him in prayer and fasting, to seek His face and He would give us a plan. We would have 6 months to prepare and the last 3 months of 2010 – He said we will need His mercy to get through the last 3 months. I’m going to stand by it. Again, if I didn’t hear God, then I can’t hear God. If that wasn’t God speaking to me then I will never again as long as I live say that the Lord spoke to me. And I’m telling you tonight that everything is lining up towards a World War this year. One of the things the Holy Spirit told me in January was that many people will die in 2010, including many Christians. And He said ‘do not mourn or grieve the death of so many Christians. It is my mercy, I am taking them out of this world as tribulation starts’. The time of tribulation is near. We are in the time of sorrows. The earth is groaning. The signs are everywhere – wars and rumors of wars, pestulence and plagues, famines. The Lord Jesus Christ is coming back, and the Church isn’t ready. Arouse yourself and prepare yourself, for the Lord is coming. Arise and wait for Him. Be prepared and tell everyone you know. Jesus Christ is coming.”

On January 8, 2011, Mr. Wiles came out with an “one year anniversary” broadcast to review the message given a year ago. link: http://www.trunews.com/Audio/1_07_11_friday_trunews2.mp3

I eagerly tuned in. Was this to be the occasion that Mr. Wiles kept his promise before God and his listeners to publicly admit error, and agree to never speak on behalf of the Lord again? No, this was not the case. Sadly, this opportunity to make things right was turned into a “panel discussion” with 5 guests about whether or not the original message had indeed been a true word from the Lord. And who was on the panel? One person I had never heard of, but two were frequent guests on his show, (Mr. Nathan Leal, and Mr. Augusto Perez, who are also heavily into the prophecy realm on the internet) and the other two were announced as members of Mr. Wiles’ Board of Directors. (I think the legal profession would refer to this as a “rigged jury.”)

In this anniversary broadcast, explanations were given as to why events in 2010 didn’t seem to concur with what the message had stated. It was offered that things “were set in motion” in 2010, which would not be brought to fruition until a later date. It was offered that the “big event” that the Holy Spirit told him about was the body scanners and body searches occurring in the nation’s airports. It was offered that Mr. Wiles never left the country in 2010 because the start of the America’s Hope project was delayed.

In brief, Mr. Wiles fell miles short of admitting any error. No assurance was given to the listeners that he will stop issuing messages from the Lord in the future. The spirit of the anniversary broadcast could only be described by any reasonable listener as a defense of the original message being a genuine word from the Holy Spirit. Please listen for yourself, so there will be no question of misquoting anyone.

In conclusion, I would make the following points:

God does not just hear our words, He knows our hearts, and he reads the heart, or spirit of everything we do. We all need to be accountable for the spirit of what we say and do. I submit that the spirit of Mr. Wiles message of Jan. 8, 2010 was that the Holy Spirit told him America would be utterly devestated by a major incident occurring sometime just before or during the last three months of the year in 2010. The devestation would be so severe that some of us who were healthy enough should consider leaving the country. He stated the Holy Spirit told him he would be out of the country before 2010 ended. He reiterated the dramatic nature of the coming event in a later message, (May 24), and stated that the major incident of 2010 the Holy Spirit told him about would be a nuclear explosion. There was no doubt about when, it was clearly to be sometime in the latter part of 2010. This was the spirit of the message. People who are clever with words can find loopholes to obscure the real meaning of any message, but all we need to do is look to the spirit of the message to know what is really being said.

Nobody is misquoting anyone. Nobody is taking anyone out of context. Nobody is twisting words. Words are being scrutinized because they have been represented to the body of Christians as the words of the Holy Spirit. Could anything less be expected? If the words are from God, they should be able to stand up to scrutiny.

When a person stands up in a public broadcast and announces he is speaking words given to him from the Holy Spirit about the future, that person shouldn’t be offended when some of the listeners want to hold up the words to the light of day to seek confirmation for themselves.  Mr. Wiles calls these people his “enemies“. People calling for scrutiny of such serious public statements as this does not make them  the “enemies” of the prophet who spoke. And when the future timeframe stated in the prophecy arrives, and fails to confirm that it was the Holy Spirit speaking, and still the prophet steadfastly sticks to his story that it was, ……..well, any student of the Bible will know about how serious this is. (Luke 12:10)

The odd thing to me is that we all know these bad times and wicked events are coming. We don’t need anything other than the Bible to know this. What we don’t know is when. Why do some in the body always insist on stepping forward to be the ones God reveals His timelines to? The ones who are truly going to inherit the best of the riches of the kingdom of heaven are the ones who are now silently and anonomously working to bring the gospel to all corners of the earth, without regard to personal aggrandisement or recognition, not the ones waving their arms back and forth, saying “look over here, I’ve got the truth.”

Its so sad how so many Christians these days just insist on getting their sense of direction from men. They either don’t have enough faith or self-assurance to just open up the Bible and let it, and prayer, obedience, and a personal relationship with Christ be the guiding lights in their lives.

………….published by endtimedelusion          a blog of JD Ellis 

 

 

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97 Responses to Rick Wiles and the devastation of America in 2010: a muddied cup of prophecy

  1. thomas says:

    Just heard a new show on trunews hosted by a daniel duval. Rick seems to be bringing more false teachers into the fold.

  2. Thanks Thomas. I’ve never heard of Daniel Duval, but I’ll be checking into him. If history is any indication, Wiles bringing him onboard the show means there are probably huge red flags waving all around.

    Blessings,
    JD Ellis

  3. Mike S. says:

    Too bad we didnt live in the days of Noah im sure you would have been in the crowd that blasted him and warned us all of the idiot building the boat cause God told him to…God does speak thru dreams and sends prophets today to warn his people of times and events to come…I dont need to hear from any of ya to knw the times we are in and whats brewing on the horizon. I dont think its Rick W. or any of them that are the heretics we have to be concerned about but rather the ones who sew discord amongst the brethren…..

  4. Yes, sure Mike, sure. You think its people who call out someone lying in the name of the Almighty God who are the heretics. What a complete lack of discernment you are displaying. Wiles is nothing but a snake oil salesman, but worse. He sells his snake oil with the name of God on the label.

    If you think the role Rick Wiles is playing bears any resemblance to the role God gave Noah, you are completely out of your senses. Did Noah collect money from the people for warning them of the disaster to come? Did Noah use his resources to build a legacy to himself, like Wiles is doing, in Florida and the Carribean? Did any true prophet of God solicit money? Use your head.

    Wiles preaches the gospel of news headlines, but that is a false gospel. He’s been doing this lying in the name of the Lord since 1999, and still he is not only able to fool people like you, he is able to take your money as well. Wiles is building himself a media empire on the backs of people who don’t know their bible well enough to recognize his false teachings. I will pray that God opens your eyes before this dangerous false teacher leads you past the point of no return with his gospel of the flesh.

    JD Ellis

  5. Ken says:

    You should go back to English class.

  6. Mike S. says:

    They offer news that we dont get on regular TV and w/out sponsors just like all religious programs they solicit from us. What they do with the resources they get after overhead is paid is between them and God…I listen to the news and let God deal with all the TV and radio ministries greed. But thank God for you and all your lapdogs putting the big divide in the church.

  7. As you said, he is a NEWSMAN. Wiles just invented the career of PASTOR/NEWSMAN. There is no such calling and no such position in the church. Show me the biblical calling for a person who is a pastor or shepherd of a congregation who gives the news and political commentary for 55 minutes each day, and then tacks on 2 minutes of bible verses at the end? Imagine if churches were run this way.

    Matthew 6:24

    24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

    A quote from you Mike:
    “But thank God for you and all your lapdogs putting the big divide in the church.”

    That’s hilarious Mike. You’re the lapdog of this man who is focusing on the kingdom of the flesh and the world and the secular government, while convincing people who have no solid biblical understanding to believe this is the kingdom of God he is preaching.

    As far as division in the church, Jesus profoundly and with no uncertainty demonstrated that he was much less concerned about “dividing” people than he was about telling them to put all their focus on the kingdom to come and off of the things of this world. He caused division everywhere he went. “Unity” is not part of the gospel, at least not when it involves remaining silent when a false gospel is being preached. But I guess listening to the gospel of Wiles has you convinced that the kingdom is in the things of the here and now. That’s no surprise.

    Here’s a suggestion Mike: why don’t you send Wiles an email today and ask him why in the 15 years of his Christian “ministry” he has never allowed anyone to see the financial statements of his ministry? His is the only Christian organization I know of that is incorporated in such a tax classification that he is not required by law to open his books. If you were a true man of God wouldn’t you want your congregation to see for themselves how the contributions and tithes are being spent for the kingdom of God? Especially with his past history of financial controversy and unfinished projects. A “pastor” with something to hide is a dangerous thing for so many believers to put their trust in.

    The only responses that I’m aware of that Wiles has given to inquiries about the finances of his ministry have been basically a stone wall of silence, or in some cases, threats to sue the inquirer.

    JD Ellis

  8. Annettemarie says:

    JD,
    I see in one of your posts regarding Nathan Leal, you claim that during 2013 Mr. Leal was harassing you on facebook. How could that be? JD, don’t you know that in 2014 Mr. Leal announced on his website that has been a victim of deadly Lupus and that during 2013 Mr. Leal claims he was failing, he believed that he was at deaths door, that he was in decline and spent….He feared he was dying of Lupus!!! Mr. Leal claims to be a victim of deadly Lupus for TEN YEARS. Bedridden in 2013 with a notebook at his side to record all his prophetic dreams. So JD, how could Mr. Leal have possibly been harassing you when he was at deaths door? Please note, this can all be verified on his website. I suggest that you copy it because certain “vital” information disappears suddenly from WatchmansCry website never to be found again.

    Oh, I must mention that I looked up a taped guest interview of Mr. Leal on the Hagmann and Hagmann Report Online Blogs Talk that took place during 2013 when Mr. Leal was at deaths door. Guess what JD? In that interview Mr. Leal states that he was praying as He WAS CHOPPING WOOD AND RUNNING ERRANDS. Er….Did Mr. Leal forget when he announced on his website in 2014 revealing his “SECRET” deadly disease of Lupus which he has suffered from for TEN YEARS and claiming that in 2013 he was so weak, and was “spent” that he thought he was dying….Did he forget his interview taped in 2013 where he is fit a fiddle chopping wood and running errands? Yes, he was busy chopping wood, running errands as he prayed and harassing you on facebook,,,,,at the same time he was at death’s door, weak, spent, dying. Mr. Leal is BUSTED and this is only the tip of the iceberg. Mr. Leal has EXPOSED HIMSELF as a DERANGED LIAR. We have a statement by Mr. Leal on his own website and a taped interview from a Hagmann and Hagmann show, by Mr. Leal that totally oppose each other….there is no truth in this man.

    I really would like to find a person who recalls Mr. Leal’s 2008 post on his website whereby he claimed to have had a major leg injury that left him disabled and in a wheel chair. Every intimate detail was given including that he did not have any medical coverage nor could he afford desperately needed medical treatment. He claimed God afflicted him with this suffering to teach him humility. He also shared how the suffering caused him mental trauma and humiliation. That posting has been scrubbed. It is gone, like it never happened, disappeared. Now It is Lupus.

    This is the kick-off. Mr. Leal claims that he has had Lupus for TEN YEARS and he and his wife wanted to keep it a secret but have decided now is the time to reveal it!!!!! That is stated on his website.

    Please help me out here. In 2008, Mr. Leal shared every INTIMATE detail of a disabling leg injury, whereby he had no medical insurance, nor could he afford needed medical care and was shopping in second hand stores. Since Mr. Leal was diagnosed TEN YEARS AGO with deadly Lupus, that would bring us back to 2004. But he and his wife wanted to keep his LUPUS ILLNESS A SECRET. If they wanted to keep his Lupus a “secret” then why, just SIX YEARS AGO, would Mr. Leal give every little INTIMATE detail of his physical injury and his desperate financial woes, of 2008, and LEAVE OUT the saga of the deadly disease of Lupus that he now claims he has been suffering from since 2004?? Bizarre? No a pack of lies. This is a deranged fraud of the highest or lowest degree. And his wife takes part in this???? What is going on here???

    Am I the only one who remembers the 2008 announcement of Mr. Leal saga of his desperate health and money woes…?

    BTW, I have a relative who suffered and died of Lupus. Before she passed away, she could not take the pain anymore and refused her drugs. One cannot chop wood with Lupus. Moreover, I know of a young woman of 30 years of age who died of Lupus. She suffered horribly; was rushed to ER many times and could never be diagnosed until just before she died.

    I heard a couple of audio’s of Mr.Leal’s in 2008. I believed him to be a man of God. After 2008 I rarely ever went on his website, but I did, now and then, send him emails with my testimony, Biblical analogies, personal experiences, Biblical based opinions, etc. I learned by accident, upon hearing him on a live interview, that he had plagiarized my creative writing, thoughts, testimony, etc. and he said GOD TOLD HIM, THE HOLY SPIRIT TOLD HIM. I have confronted him via email of what he has done to me…..He is deranged. He is enraged, how dare I shake up the throne upon which he sits.

    Something I find extremely interesting: In 2013 Pastor Ken Peters, God’s faithful servant, who God gave the prophetic dream in 1980, called. “I saw the Tribulation”, said that in 2014 False Prophets would be exposed. I never dreamed that prophecy by Ken Peters would affect me. It was in Jan 2014 or Dec 2013 that I found out what Mr. Leal has done to me. I have confronted Mr. Leal and exposed him as a FALSE PROPHET. Some of the things Mr. Leal says are truly of God,,,,but they do not come from Mr. Leal, they come from others who Mr. Leal plagiarizes.

    Mr. Leal’s, June 1, 2014, audio message is about Betrayal…of course, wouldn’t you know it!!! He is enraged that I confronted him with the truth. In his message he says it is a “Judas spirit” to betray a man of God. (indicates me being a Judas,,,what a manipulator he is, evil) So Leal claims he was betrayed. No I, and others, were betrayed by him. Mr. Leal is a last days self-serving Babylonian controlled by the spirit of greed. He cares not of the hurt and pain he causes others by HIS BETRAYAL AND LIES. I told him to REPENT. Liars cannot enter the kingdom of heaven.

    This is the best: In January of 2014 when I checked Mr. Leal’s website after discovering that he was plagiarizing me, I saw a statement by his wife, Donna Leal, a statement saying that Pastor Ken Peters is a FALSE PROPHET, and she said it with such glee. (because Ken Peters believes in the pre-trib rapture). Now in Mr. Leal’s audio on Betrayal, June 1, 2014, he calls anyone who “attacks” a man of God a Judas, which was meant for me because I have confronted him on his BIG TIME plagiarism. Guess what? Donna Leal’s slander of Ken Peters has been scrubbed, clean, wiped away never to be found again on Watchman’s Cry website….Interesting website,,,things pop up…things disappear…depends which way the wind blows….no truth can be found there.

    I pity Mr. Leal’s followers; they are in the twilight zone. They need to turn to the Lord Jesus.

  9. Annettemarie says:

    Good for you that you picked up on the fraud, Steve Quayle, so quickly. The internet private club for the god business, small g,, consists of Steve Quayle, Rick Wiles, Nathan Leal, Doug Hagmann, and Paul McGuire. Seems the incredible braggart, Steve Quayle, is the leader of the pack, who, if one follows him closely, will find him saying things that one who claims to believe in God would never, never, say. It is no wonder that we are warned against wolves in sheep clothing. They are hungry wolves that want to feed off the sheep, fatten up on the sheep and business is booming in the god business, small g. It is Barnum and Bailey, with all the bells and whistles; whatever is hot, whatever sells, whichever way the wind blows, they are there for you…Just keep pressing that donate button, but it never is enough according to Quayle and Leal. or Wiles. Follow them closely and you will find, sadly, that the self-serving promoters are full of deception. Deception is the key, deception. If one puts trust in their words, in what they say….then one is like a lamb going to the slaughter. It truly is pathetic.

  10. I’ve listened to some of his recent interviews. I enjoy listening to his guests… however folks this guy is a scammer for gosh sakes…. he came from a large ministry system which is a machine to extract money from the poor, misfortured, widowed, etc… Yes think about about it… he broadcast from West Palm area, if he was truely trying to pinch every penny to give back to the needy and make best use of the donor’s money he’d be broadcasting from somewhere with a less expensive zip code.

  11. Yes, he was marketing manager at TBN – one of the most heretical institutions in all history. And he feels that background qualifies him to call himself “Pastor Rick Wiles.” People who send this guy money thinking they are donating to the kingdom of God are sorely misled. As you imply, money donated goes to further his media empire which is being built on the backs of people who believe this is a movement of God. And who really knows how much actually doesn’t even make it into the “ministry” coffers, and ends up in his pocket to support his beach lifestyle.

    Of course, none of us will ever know the answer because he has used his financial expertise to set up his ministry in such a way that he is not legally obligated to open his books to public scrutiny. Trunews listeners and doners, wake up. You are being scammed.

    Thanks for visiting the site Kevin,
    God bless you,
    JD Ellis

  12. Armin Groesch says:

    Looks like God changed his mind again,Rick has put video streaming plans on indefinite hold
    because God told him it’s too late according to last night’s broadcast 9/25/14.I wonder if all the
    people who donated money for this will get a refund? Kind of wonder which God he heard in
    the first place.

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