The Downgrade Of Theology In The Modern Church

I have lost count in recent months how many times I have ventured onto Christian blogs and social media with the intent to engage in discussions of a doctrinal or theological nature, only to be met with not just intense resistance but outright hostility. I can sense that immediately everyone gets their backs up, ready to pounce on the guy who has the harebrained idea to discuss theology. I am even held up for prayers by the group for deliverance from my devilish reliance on “man-centered traditions.”

It seems every generation follows a set pattern: the younger generation grows up thinking itself to be infinitely wiser and more sensible than the generation that preceded it. Then as the current generation ages and gives way to the next, it realizes how much their ancestors really understood.

Growing up in the 60’s and 70’s I was thoroughly convinced that my generation was going to be a trailblazing paradigm of how to change a society. Looking back now, I see what little wisdom lay behind all of that, and how not respecting the work of those who have come before us is folly.

The same holds true for the church. The past tells a clear story of how whenever doctrine and teachings of God-gifted and inspired preachers and teachers of past times and previous generations have been marginalized, and something “new” brought in, the decline of that church was immediate and some never recover. This elevation of self and the moment and repudiation of the past has been dramatically harmful to the Christian church.

I find it never ceases to amaze me how few Christians, especially those who have set themselves up in some kind of discernment role in the church, have actually studied church history and Christian theology to any substantial degree. What would seem to be an obvious goldmine of treasures and figuratively an embarrassment of riches contained in the past generations of two thousand years of God’s church is left virtually untapped, or worse, disparaged and denigrated. The great spiritual discernment gifts God gave to scholars and preachers of the Word throughout the church age seem to hold little value to some of the church leaders in what are considered “progressive” ministries today.

Their generation, they think, will be so much more forward-thinking than their predecessors. They are so puffed up they actually believe they will bring to the forefront real truths about scripture that nobody ever thought of for two thousand years of church history. They will show us, they claim, how foolish it is to get our theology from “a bunch of dead guys,” as one person put it recently.

I am encountering more and more frequently those who scoff at theology in Christian discussion. It is like you have said a bad word, and frowns immediately appear, along with wrinkled  foreheads. Try it sometime when you are engaged with a Christian discussion group and see how quickly a distress signal reverberates that has a visible and tangible effect on the listeners. “Oh, no, not this this man-centered theology again!” I have recently interacted with Christian discernment groups on the internet who openly mock anyone who ventures forward in defense of theology. It doesn’t even matter which theology; these people condemn all interpretations of scripture ever penned by man. If these were actual brick and mortar churches, they would probably physically throw out the offending upholder of doctrine.

The Beginnings Of The Theology Downgrade

In London in the year 1887, Charles Spurgeon published the first of two articles entitled “The Down Grade” in his monthly magazine, The Sword and the Trowel. It was edited by his close friend Robert Shindler. Thus the famous Down Grade controversy started in England. As reported on spurgeon.org, Shindler closed his first article on the Down Grade with these words:

“These facts furnish a lesson for the present times, when, as in some cases, it is all too plainly apparent men are willing to forego the old for the sake of the new. . But commonly it is found in theology that that which is true is not new, and that which is new is not true.

Spurgeon had become alarmed at the strong trends in the church which were carrying it away from sound doctrines and theology which had been the strength of the church for generations and was carrying it to feelings and experiences and ‘new’ doctrines of people who were “strangers of the work of renewing grace.” 

In the same issue of Sword and Trowel Shindler tells of a chapel on High Street where Charles Darwin had been introduced to the blatant heresy of Socinianism. It turns out this was the same chapel that had previously flourished for years under the pastorship of Matthew Henry, a great theologian who wrote the famous commentary on the entire bible. Here was a church that had slipped from a doctrinal high road to the depths of heresy which denies the Trinity and the divinity of Christ.

The reasons for the current down grade of theology today can run the gamut from simple to complex, but basically can be traced back to a few root causes.

Avoid Controversy At All Costs?

Many people see controversy as something to be avoided in Christian discussion. Believing that having a strong position on a doctrinal issue is by its nature divisive, they think that it follows that Jesus would not approve of any strong beliefs being forwarded, lest another party be offended. I think the scriptural record shows that Jesus was much less concerned with people taking offense at his teachings, than he was with speaking the truth.

The idea itself that a Christian is never to offend anyone is not upheld when examined in light of scripture. The biblical guideline is to not be a “stumbling block” to one’s brother in Christ. In 2 Cor. 6:3 we have the text:

We give no offense in anything, that our ministry may not be blamed

The Greek word for offense is “proskopen” meaning a difficulty or obstacle, or “stumbling block,” as Paul previously used the word in 1 Cor. 8:9.  If one stays true to the teaching of the gospel, it is in fact inevitable that someone will be offended! For the message of the cross is foolishness to some, as we are told in 1 Cor. 1:18,23.

The concern Jesus had for truth over feelings was demonstrated in how he dealt with the Pharisees. At one point the disciples had to come to Jesus and warn him that the Pharisees were getting offended by what he was saying. He continued to speak the truth. Very often those people who are not living in alignment with God’s truth will be offended.

Calvinist-Arminian Debate Cited As Reason To Abandon Theology

Much has been said about the controversial debates going on since the days of the Reformation between Calvinists and Arminians. Since the followers of Jacob Arminius introduced the Remonstrance in 1610, articles which were in disagreement with the teachings of the Dutch Reformed Church which held to the teachings of John Calvin, great debate has been going on in the church.. Much has been made about how destructive these differences have been, but I believe the net effect has been to generate a great increase in the searching of the scriptures by both sides. Just like the noble-minded Bereans of New Testament times, both sides have been spurred to diligently study the word to find what is the truth.

Which points of the Calvinists seem to stand up under scriptural scrutiny? And what points of the Arminian view hold up? I know in my personal experience, no single issue or debate has been more of a catalyst than this, for me to diligently bury myself in God’s word.

Essential doctrines such as the Atonement, Justification, Election, and Sanctification are the issues at stake. Even those with a neutral stance somewhere in the middle have been stimulated to go to the scriptures and check for themselves. To claim these are issues which simply should not be brought up, and worse, to excoriate and mock all who engage in discussion of them, is certainly not a healthy sign. The decline of interest in theology in a ministry has historically always been closely followed by a decline in efficacy of gospel preaching, with an attendant rise in interest in aberrant teachings foreign to the gospel.

What We Believe About God Is Our Theology

 “Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another.” Prov. 27:17

To claim complete independence from any attachment to theology is an inconsistent position for any believer to hold to. If one has no theology, one has no position on God and the revelation contained in his word. Every time we search the scriptures we hone our theology. The result should be an increase in exhortation, encouragement, teaching, admonishing, praying, and the sharing of God’s word.

Those clinging to the notion that controversy is always to be avoided in Christian circles, of course, see theological debates as a great tragedy and as shameful chapters in church history. These are the ones who think they are positioned as the “enlightened” generation who will lead the church out of the past dark ages of foolish reliance on “man-centered” doctrines coming from their clueless ancestors. They think they will lead the church into a shining new era where no man’s scholarship, preaching, or teaching will be acceptable. They look at this as some form of “cleansing” the church of its polluted humanistic views and positions.

The idea currently in vogue with some Christian discernment ministries is that all theological positions ever developed by men are by definition “man-centered” and as such are merely “traditions of men.” The implication is clear: that simply reading the scriptures, and avoiding like the plague any teaching or preaching of the gospel by men, is the way to keep your Christian walk pure and uncontaminated. But is this the Christian walk that is found in these very same scriptures?

Isn’t having no theology actually a theology in itself? If a Christian teacher or expositor has read the scriptures, and has become convinced that no man can accurately capture and exposit the teachings therein, has he not fallen into a trap of his own setting? Is this not eisegesis or “reading into” the word something that is not there? Is there anything in scripture which warns man not to develop a  methodology of coming to understand and teach its meaning to others? Does not this teacher’s eisegesis then become his theology, which he then passes down to those who sit under his teaching?

The great irony, of course, is that while teaching others not to listen to men, he breaks the same rule he is teaching. And sadly, this obvious truth is completely lost on those of the “new generation” of Christian thinkers, out to change the face of Christianity and lead it out of what is sadly deemed to be the ignorance and darkness of their forerunners.

Anyone who has read the scriptures with any degree of depth has already developed a theology. It is impossible not to. Whatever you get from studying the bible IS your theology. To denigrate all theologies while you yourself have a theology, reveals itself as a “do as I say, not as I do” hypocrisy.

Theology Really Does Matter

C.S. Lewis had the following to say about the importance of theology in his classic book “Mere Christianity”

……if a man has once looked at the Atlantic from the beach, and then goes and looks at a map of the Atlantic, he also will be turn­ing from some­thing real to some­thing less real: turn­ing from real waves to a bit of coloured paper. But here comes the point. The map is admit­tedly only coloured paper, but there are two things you have to remem­ber about it. In the first place, it is based on what hun­dreds and thou­sands of peo­ple have found out by sail­ing the real Atlantic. In that way it has behind it masses of expe­ri­ence just as real as the one you could have from the beach; only, while yours would be a sin­gle glimpse, the map fits all those dif­fer­ent expe­ri­ences together. In the sec­ond place, if you want to go any­where, the map is absolutely nec­es­sary. As long as you are con­tent with walks on the beach, your own glimpses are far more fun than look­ing at a map. But the map is going to be more use than walks on the beach if you want to get to America.

Now, The­ol­ogy is like the map. Merely learn­ing and think­ing about the Chris­t­ian doc­trines, if you stop there, is less real and less excit­ing than the sort of thing my friend got in the desert. Doc­trines are not God: they are only a kind of map. But that map is based on the expe­ri­ence of hun­dreds of peo­ple who really were in touch with God-experiences com­pared with which any thrills or pious feel­ings you and I are likely to get on our own are very ele­men­tary and very con­fused. And sec­ondly, if you want to get any fur­ther, you must use the map.

Here I think Lewis provides a helpful analogy in defense of theology: that we can look at scriptures and get the genuine thing, as in the person looking at the ocean from the beach, but in a map, while published on mere paper, is compiled through intense study and actual hands-on experience by actual sailors who have ridden the high seas for years. We get the chart as to how to navigate safely. This is how theology works. While no theology is perfect, just as no map is without imperfections, I will still take a map with me before embarking on a journey, instead of haughtily rejecting the work of the cartographers because it has been filtered through “human minds.” I earnestly desire to be aided by the wisdom, experience, and inspiration of those who have travelled the same route before me.

Is  Theology The “Redefinition” Of Scripture?

Some of those who would have us throw out all theology do so because they claim it “redefines” scripture. But to redefine something, you need a definition to start with. They think that they are bringing no interpretation themselves, and no definitions, simply lifting the text of scripture directly into their minds without the influence of anything they have ever read or heard, or have been taught. How sweet it must be to have such a virgin mind, a veritable “blank slate”, upon which no human influences have ever been allowed to trespass and pollute.

Take, for example, John 6 verse 28:

 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.

A Calvinist will have the interpretation that this demonstrates the doctrine of perseverance of the saints, while someone else, either Arminian or of a different persuasion, might say it simply speaks of no one ELSE snatching them, but they still might lose salvation by their OWN undoing. The point is, both sides are applying themselves as good Bereans to come to an understanding of the text. Something without definition from the reader is something that is not understood at any level. An understanding of a thought or word which is not defined by the thinker of the thought or the reader of the word, is a frivolous  understanding. It would be nothing different than a file produced by a computerized text-to-speech program.

Doctrine Will Always Matter

The Apostles planted churches, and instructed them with what Jesus had taught them. They set down the doctrines in the churches. This was to be passed down from generation to generation. Nowhere were the churches allowed to put aside doctrine and improvise. Teaching has always been vital to church growth. Paul makes the importance of teaching clear: Rom. 6-17:

17 But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered.

Here is Paul speaking of doctrine to which the followers had been ‘delivered’. He could have spoken about being delivered to Christ, or delivered to the gospel, which would have been quite true, but he chose to say “the doctrine to which you have been delivered.”

And Paul speaking to young Timothy, about the importance of doctrine:

1 Tim 4:6 If you put these things before the brothers, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, being trained in the words of the faith and of the good doctrine that you have followed.

Again on doctrine, and a warning that some will go against it:

Titus 1:9 He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine  and also to rebuke those who contradict it.

And Paul to Timothy, stressing the importance of always continuing in doctrine:

1 Tim. 4  16 Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.

When Jesus had just 24 hours before he would be nailed to the cross, what did he choose to teach the disciples? The doctrine of the Trinity. The last four chapters of John, about twenty percent of his gospel, is devoted to the last day of the Lord before his death on the cross, teaching the doctrine of the Trinity.

Doctrine Must Be Balanced With Love

Paul was the consummate theologian, having been educated at the most prestigious rabbinical seminary of the times. But he knew the danger of relying too much on “head” and not enough on spirit. He knew that too much head knowledge tended to make man think more highly of himself than he ought to.

1 Cor 2:12-13  Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, 13 which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words.

Apostolic Sign Gifts Continue, But Gift Of Discernment Has Ceased??

I find it ironic that many in the new anti-theology movement themselves believe human offices of Holy Spirit apostolic sign gifts of prophecy, healing, and tongues continue to be open and thriving today, just as they were on the day of Pentecost. But many of these same people believe no man is to be listened to when he uses the Holy Spirit gift of discernment in the teaching, preaching, or biblical scholarship of the Word of God. They believe these things to be “man-centered theology” and as such treat them like pagan traditions instead of giving them the reverence and attention they deserve as being equally as Spirit-endowed as any of the other gifts.

Are We To Believe the Prophets and Healers, But Not the Preachers?

Is someone who publishes a supposedly “thus sayeth the Lord” prophetic utterance on the Internet to be revered more highly than a preacher who stands up before a congregation and exposits passages from scripture? Or the theologian who writes a book on certain parts of the bible? What a tragic development that ordinary, simple, and down-to-earth theologians, preachers and teachers toiling to reach the lost with God’s word or to exposit passages in scripture at a level where their truth can be opened up to believers everywhere are mocked and ridiculed, while the haughty, headline-hunting “healers and prophets” are raised up to glorious heights by prideful man. Such is the result of our truly fallen nature to always choose the flashy and colorful over the humble, the simple, and the true. People like this will never truly agree with the authority of scripture. They will always be seeking something newer, and shinier, and better.

In 2 Timothy 4:2-4 we read about this trend:

preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

Who Do You Believe: Neitzche or Packer?

Lest anyone be fooled by any of this belittling of theology so popular today, I present this sobering quotation from one who is rightly considered one of the most God-hating men who ever lived:

“Whatever a theologian regards as true must be false: there you have almost a criterion of truth………..”

Friedrich Neitzche

And compare that view of theology to that of Christian scholar J.I. Packer, who said:

“Theology is for the praise of God and the practice of Godliness…”

 

All blessings in Christ,

JD Ellis

 

 

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18 Responses to The Downgrade Of Theology In The Modern Church

  1. Armin says:

    Confirmation.Very well said,thank you.

  2. Blessings, Armin. There is a lot of anti-theology sentiment in the church today. We are shamed and ridiculed for even referring to the work of great scholars and theologians who went before us. Not learning from the past is a big mistake. We all should consider that maybe, just maybe, we’re not the first generation to have a firm grip on biblical teachings since the resurrection of Christ 2,000 years ago. It is pomposity and foolishness to think this way.

    In Christ,
    JD Ellis

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  4. Rachel Cook says:

    I am age 34, was home school in my youth (ergo taught to think for myself and raised christian, we read the Word of God to learn how to read) and have recently over the last few years listened to Rick Wiles and Nathan Leal due to the fact I feel like something big/judgmental is about to happen to this nation and we must prepare for it, yet there has always been something not quite right deep down that was warning me and nagging me when I listened to them. Due to the business of my life and all that I was doing (job, family, et cetera) , I never fully investigated. Didn’t listen to them regularly but was always something there that didn’t seem quite right. I would listen to Leonard Ravenhill while in the bath…and then attempt to listen to Nathan Leal and have to shut him down because I would rant in my head, WHO CARES what the Illuminati is projecting in the super bowl what are YOU doing for Christ!! Until recently this year there has been a dividing taking place, between truth and lies. I’ve stumbled across your website a few times before in the past and totally agree with everything I have read. Recently I was looking for Christian commentators perspective on Rick Wiles horrendous escapade into allowing that priest Palmer on his program which was discussing the Catholics church’s attempt at reaching Pentecostals – scandalous! I think that was towards the end of May 2014. Palmer stated the Pope was Christ in the flesh on that program and Rick said NOTHING. And found again your website while searching for Rick Wiles comments.

    Nicely scriptural! A rare thing. Nice discussion, and logical content. Not meant to pet the Ego, which one always has to be wary of, but is is nice when SOMEONE points everything back to The Word of God. How can you go wrong with that??? What a rarity. While I still know since dreams from my youth and I know dreams can be misleading, that destruction is coming and the tribulation fast upon us, and something bad is about to happen, I also appreciate – well extol that scripture is far superior to any dreams or feelings I’ve had about what will happen or is about to happen, who am I to know what will happen for sure. Those are just my feelings and what I will live by and prepare for should be based on Gods Word. There is so much confusion in the World today, especially in America. I like to listen to here recently, Derek Prince and Leonard Ravenhill (both dead) who really show what is lacking in today’s doom and gloom’ers society. That’s not to say I don’t think something is about to happen…well not think, know…but that is just me. BUT the Word of God is always supreme and it is SO NICE to see someone who exalts that above all else. I can not say for sure this nation will go another 5 years without a dollar crash despite the fact I have a hobby of listening to economists such as Jim Willie and think our QE (quantitative easing) is beyond sustainability, despite the fact the whole world is switching to other currencies beyond the dollar as the reserve currency it is always God at the end who will say how long it will be. So while I can make practical and smart choices based on what I see, it is not a 100% fact. I have been guilty of emailing out Maurice Sklyar visions et cetera to my family, because they matched my feelings of judgement coming on this Nation. I never fully investigated, and I found this article an absolute eye opener. Anyway, thanks for staying true to the Word of God (after looking through lots of your articles today). Discussion and pointing back to the Word, one can never go wrong. So nice! Would like to pick your brain, you are probably much like my parents. This day in age independent people who are taught to think on their own and have their own opinions are frowned upon. Well keep it up. Discussion is good, and having a deep conversation about what is in the Word of God can never go wrong. Keep your own opinions based on the Word of God, keep asking questions, discussion is good when regarding how accurately we are keeping things to Gods Word. We should always check ourselves on that. Thanks 🙂 And I hope that’s not an ego thing just nice to see someone pointing back to the Word…

  5. Thanks for your comments Rachel. Yes, absolutely scripture is the final and only authority on what is spoken. I was deceived by these “newsmen/pastors” myself for a while a few years back. I know how deceptive they can be.

    So many today believe anything that they read on a so-called “Christian” web site or radio show. But merely putting God’s name on what is being spoken does not make it true, or even Christian. You will know them by their fruit. If they are truly bringing the Gospel to the people you will know it. But what I see is mainly just stirring up an immense amount of fear in people everywhere. This fear tends to breed upon itself, and the listeners are drawn back again and again to listen to what these false teachers tell you God is speaking to them.

    It is basically just an old story with new packaging that is presented each week by the false prophets. I have a book by Rick Wiles which he wrote in 1999, and its full of what are basically the same scare stories he is telling now. Nothing really changes. They just put enough of a “new twist” to their stories to keep the listeners coming back for more. Then they throw in a few bible verses in the closing minutes just to convince you its all God’s work, and you MUST continue to follow and support their shows.

    May God richly bless you in your search for truth,
    JD Ellis

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  7. 220lily says:

    Thank you for saying that doctrine matters! http://220lily.wordpress.com/2013/11/30/hooked-on-a-feeling/

  8. Thanks for visiting the blog. I really like what I see at yours as well! May God continue to bless you as you take a stand for truth and the word of God.

    All blessings in Christ,
    JD Ellis

  9. K K says:

    JD Ellis,
    I certainly differ with your cessation view of spiritual gifts.
    Prophecies even in the primitive church were not necessarily given to ADD to the canon
    I find prophets in Acts like Agubus and the daughters of Philip the evangelist, yet whatever they prophesied was not sufficient to make it to the canon.

    So if you have ought against modern day prophets, it should not be because you believe they are attempting to add to the revealed WORD. You are imputing very blasphemous motives on their part and then ferociously attacking it. Further, even if their motives are as you suggest, adding to the canon, making money and earning influence, that in itself does not disqualify their job; prophesying. People marry for the wrong motives. Marriage is still honorable

    That said, the church is full to the brim with quacks

  10. Quote:

    “So if you have ought against modern day prophets, it should not be because you believe they are attempting to add to the revealed WORD. You are imputing very blasphemous motives on their part and then ferociously attacking it”

    I am not dealing primarily with their motives. That would be known only to them. If I state they accept financial payment, I am stating a fact. The reader can infer motivation if he or she wants. If I had to state what I feel is the main motivation is I would say fame and fortune. So many today want to be a prophet. It is by far the most sought after office in the church. Notice how those who choose the office of prophet outnumber by a huge margin those who simply choose to obey the Great Commission and anonymously give up everything to go to foreign lands and preach the gospel? Also, its funny how I don’t see any crowds in the lineup for the office of martyr. No, its just the flashy, glamorous title of “prophet” these sinister false teachers crave. And those in discernment ministries are supposed to be shamed into silence by the likes of critics like you? Not on your life.

    I am stating a fact that people who tell the corporate body of the church that God has given them revelation for that body are making an ill-advised attempt to add to the Canon despite horrific warnings at the close of the book of Revelation not to do so. Your examples of Agabus and Philip’s daughters are examples of prophetic activity which took place BEFORE the close of the Canon. Not all prophecies that ever took place in Old and New Testament history are related in the scriptures. The whole point was that God doesn’t give revelation to his church AFTER the closing of the Canon, not whether EVERY prophecy known at the time of the close of the Canon was included in the scriptures.

    You don’t seem to grasp the magnitude of what is at stake. Genuine Christian discernment ministries don’t call out false teachers just for the thrill of pointing a finger at someone. There are souls at stake. False teaching has caused millions of souls to perish in eternal damnation, while you see it all as much ado about nothing; just a “petty vendetta” and senseless name-calling. Try to step back a bit and see the bigger picture, and maybe you’ll be able to be a little less condescending towards the brethren in the church today who truly don’t want the wolves to drag any more down to the abyss for all eternity. The same brethren who take very seriously Jesus’ numerous warnings about the danger of false teachers.

    In Christ,
    JD Ellis

  11. Lyndee W says:

    Thank you for being one of the few who speak the truth, boldly and unashamedly. I had only listened to one of Wiles’ broadcasts, and had begun listening to another, when I clicked on some links which led me to your evaluation of Wiles. Once I find out that any preacher is advocating unity with the Harlot church of Rome and the Papacy (or once it becomes clear that the preacher/radio show host is obviously acquiescing to the Roman advocate), I immediately filter out most of what they have to say. Sadly, ‘Christian’ churches no longer teach any history, and most church goers do not understand the Reformation. At a home-school event recently, some of the mothers remarked that they didn’t understand what a Lutheran Church was. One gal said, “Aren’t they the same as Catholics?” I about lost it! How people can go through life being historically ignorant, is beyond me. How ‘Christians’ can go through life being Biblically illiterate has me even more flabbergasted! The Word of God is the only thing we have as Christians by which we may measure the words of a man. The majority of the ‘church’ has already fallen away and they are asleep and under a great delusion; this is all due to the fact that they will not endure sound doctrine, but instead their itching ears make them merchandise for the peddlers who are themselves false shepherds who would prefer to plunder the sheep rather than to protect and feed Jesus’ lambs. I find it almost impossible lately to find any like-minded (Biblically-minded) sheep. There is no separation from the world, only friendship with it; this friendship is enmity with God. How then can most of the professing ‘Church’ even be real? I am at an utter loss. When Jesus comes, will He find faith on the earth? This is how terrible things have gotten. Persecution for the small group of those on the narrow road (few there be who find it), is prophesied (by Jesus and His followers) to ensue at the end. The Beast which rises from the sea (the little boastful horn) will make war with the saints and power will be given to overcome them. The false ‘church’ of Rome, and any of the Harlot’s daughters who’ve rejoined her in the end will be chief among the persecutors. History will repeat itself. The Watchman does not leave his post on the wall (i.e., he doesn’t flee the country); he simply continues to issue the warnings, so that as many as love and believe the truth may be saved. Jesus is Lord, He is sitting at the Father’s right hand, He is returning to judge the quick and the dead and to gather the harvest of His faithful ones who will endure to the end, and those who will love not their lives unto the death. The tribulation which is coming will be worse than anything ever yet to occur on the earth, that’s how Jesus depicted it. When Daniel saw it in his vision, he was grief stricken for weeks. I know history, and I know of the present evil occurring all over the world. I cannot conceive of what evil awaits which is even worse than all the evil I am already aware of. The true church, the truly faithful ones like Philadelphia and Smyrna, must immerse themselves daily in the precious Word of God, and keep their full battle armor on at all times. Those others must come out from among the harlot church and her daughters, so that they partake not in the destruction of the false church. The deceiver is doing all he can to distract, confuse and amuse the church so that she will not be found waiting and watching. I know I am preaching to the choir here, so even my words here are not necessary. I just pray that those on the narrow road, and those who’ve strayed off a little, will put off those things which entangle and get back on the one road which leads to eternal life. The end is coming, and logically speaking, we are only getting closer. Since deceivers will only wax worse and be more cunning and successful in their tactics, it would behoove the followers of Jesus to guard themselves to the teeth against any deception-whether that deception comes from without or within the ‘Church.’ Thank you again for doing the research, for sharing your research, and for being a watchman who warns us against the enemies within. The Spirit and the Bride say, ‘Come Quickly Lord Jesus.’

  12. Hi Lyndee. Thanks for visiting the site and taking the time to comment.

    It is so true what you say about the harlot church of Rome. The Reformers of previous centuries took it for granted that this was the spirit of the antichrist embodied in the Roman church. Today the so-called leadership of the Christian church are so blind that they are shaking hands with the great deceiver himself when they propose or even suggest what a wonderful thing it would be if the Protestant church “joined in unity” with the church of Rome. What a travesty.

    It gives me hope that many people like you are aware of the nature of this deceit. Truly this is the classic example of people refusing to hear the truth, and thus God gives them over to the great delusion, and they believe what is false. 2 Thes. 2 10-12

    So true about how the deceiver just wants to distract everyone so much that they have no time left for the true things of God contained in his Word. All these false prophets of the internet do the same thing: distract, distract, distract. They come up with new story lines each week, and off go the listeners down a newer and newer rabbit hole, getting sucked in every week, and getting farther and farther from their true calling to bring the gospel to all nations.

    May God bless you richly,
    JD Ellis

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